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tudodude



Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Wasta Reply with quote

Wasta.......................i see it alot.........what does it mean
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think nepotism..... X 10......... and realise you won't benefit from it Cool
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no real translation for "wasta", which comes from the same root as 'middle'. In practice, "wasta' refers to using your personal influence (or, more usaually, that of a friend or relative) to obtain some form of special treatment. Examples of the fruits of 'wasta' include getting your son into college, skipping the queue in the hospital clinic, getting a seat on a 'fully booked' flight - and just about anything else besides.
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007



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most dangerous 'Wasta' is the political 'Wasta', where a big Emir can interfere and nominate or put a person in a specific political or admnistrative position (e.g. Minister, VC of a university, Director of an organization, etc). And this may happen as well in the vote, as it happened last time!
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Spanish 'enchufe'.
In English, 'connections.'
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Taiwanlight Zone



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And in Chinese "Guanxi". World-wide phenomenon I think but possibly with worse effects on some societies than on others.
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KSA-UK



Joined: 03 May 2005
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Location: Sandy Arabia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In French, "piston" and in Saudi, "vitamin W" or "vitamin waw"... Laughing
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasta exists so strongly in KSA because of the inefficiency of their systems, particularly when it comes to governmental work like visas, passports etc.
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Robski



Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Location: Middle Europe

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you've either got it or you haven't. Like a nuclear missile, its mystery is in its non-use. And like a class full of countries, you're not sure how many of them have got one. Confused

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goingbald



Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steady on, ladies and gentlemen, before you assume that you will not benefit from wasta. One never knows.

Wasta is as SJ said. Connections. Not what you know, but who(m) you know.

Wasta has good and bad applications. If you're not oppressing anybody, there's no harm. However, if, for example, your benefit from wasta causes someone else to lose their job, which they wouldn't normally have lost, then it's bad, innit.

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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the inefficiency of their systems, particularly when it comes to governmental work like visas, passports etc.
In terms of issuing work visas and work permits the Saudi government is one of the most efficient in the world.

People who complain about it, particularly those from western countries, should look at the hurdles that other nationals face before they can get a work permit for their country.
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen, I am glad you think so, because my experiences and many Saudis I know, have been extremely bad with governmental paperwork.
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colt



Joined: 27 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Iran "partee- barzee".

And I have been the beneficiary of wasta many times.

When standing in long lines at government bureaucracies and hearing the sweetest words:

"Hello my teacher!"

Then into the boss's office to be introduced, tea and bisquits forthcoming, and the papers stamped and handcarried to you and you're on your way.
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