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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fion,

Is that figure right? Only 70,000 yen/month? Averaged out over the year, that's pretty low. Heck, even for a single month, that's barely enough to pay for rent and instant ramen (let alone prove to immigration that you had enough to live on). Was this the only figure you supplied on your wages? If so, it is an astoundingly low figure, and less than half of the lowest I have heard to date.
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kovac



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:32 pm    Post subject: Letter of Release Reply with quote

After a happy spell of working for unmentionable English school, I was recently slapped with a not verbal, written but FINAL warning for missing one day of training, the manager handing out the warning went on to outline that if dismissed his company would refuse to sign my letter of release making it "impossible" in his words to seek further employment in Japan...Is this true ? From what I gather from previous postings a new sponser is to be attained but...without release...how does one go about gaining a new sponser ???
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G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Letter of Release Reply with quote

kovac wrote:


the manager handing out the warning went on to outline that if dismissed his company would refuse to sign my letter of release making it "impossible" in his words to seek further employment in Japan...Is this true ?




No, it's not true. There is no such thing as a "letter of release" that has any legal standing. It is a common courtesy amongst Japanese companies and nothing more. The manager is talking out of his... well, not out of his mouth, shall we say. ;)

There *is* a document (Record of Employment) that is supposed to be given out upon cessation of employment with any given company, and it is possible (although I've never heard of it happening) a prospective new employer would require it before taking you on, but this paper can't be withheld under any circumstances by the former employer. This is the same paper you need if you want to collect unemployment benefits, btw.

If your employer is making noises about refusing to sign papers that would let you get another job then ask them (if you're leaving anyway) how much they wish to deal with the Labour Standards office *and* a private lawsuit for unlawful restraint of trade.


Know and practice your employment rights and obligations.
Join a *good* union.
Lead happy working living for all. :)
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kovac



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:02 pm    Post subject: Unions ? Reply with quote

Can we join a union out here !?!?

Im all for that milarky...workers unite !

Any recommendations ?
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Wolf



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: Middle Earth

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can join a union. In theory your rights to do so are protected by Japanese law. In practice it may or may not be a problem with your emloyer (people have been fired in the past for it, but the union of course fights this.)

You're in Chiba? I'm not sure of the unions in the Kanto region; but here's one I do know:

http://www.generalunion.org

I'm sure a simple net search (or even emailing the General Union) would turn up a the unions that represent expat EFL teachers in the Kanto area.
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kovac



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply I will look into this ASAP....Has anybody else found that being a foreign worker in an other country, basic employement rights are kept very much in the dark ?
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kovac,
I`d say that most countries in Asia keep foreign workers in the dark regarding their rights. Japan is much better than most for equality. In Korea, foreign workers have almost no rights and the employer has all the leverage. Only contracts written in Korean are valid, so the English version you see may not be the same as the Korean version you signed.
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kovac, head over to the Middle East forum if you want to see people in the dark. Seems that the system is much more opaque than Japan over there.
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