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This Charming Man



Joined: 07 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Just a quick question about degrees... Reply with quote

I'm still a couple of monthes away from getting my degree, but since I will have it by the time I start working, can I start applying for jobs already? It usually takes a few months to get the job anyway, right?
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about bachelor's degrees, but I've been told there's no point in applying before I have my master's in hand.
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wabisabi365



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one year into a two-year MA. When I applied for a university position that stipulated a minimum of an MA was needed, I included my acceptance letter from the university and proof of payment towards the degree in my CV package. I was given an interview and got the job.

It can be done.

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This Charming Man



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wintersweet wrote:
Don't know about bachelor's degrees, but I've been told there's no point in applying before I have my master's in hand.


I thought only a bachleor's degree was needed for eikaiwa. Are you telling me I need a master?
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zorro (3)



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason, the responses you got were not addressing your initial post. Maybe they thought that you were applying for university jobs.

You only need a bachelor's for the positions that you are applying for.

With regards to your initial question, I'm not sure. Somebody will have an idea though. Anybody?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and apply. You will need to prove to immigration that you are definitely going to get a bachelor's degree, or they will not consider you eligible for a work visa. Some certified letter from your university will usually suffice.

Best of luck.
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I mentioned master's degrees because the OP wasn't specific.
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jademonkey



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eikaiwa (easy, mindnumbing entry level job) = need a bachelor degree, but any is ok.

International School = Masters & 2+ years actual teaching experience (I was told this).

University = More. Minimum of a Masters, I believe.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jademonkey wrote:

International School = Masters & 2+ years actual teaching experience (I was told this).

University = More. Minimum of a Masters, I believe.


You don't need MA to work at an international school. You were given false information.

Universities generally accept people with an MA. However, some accept people that have started an MA program, and some accept people with just a degree. Both cases are less frequent that hiring someone with an MA.
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johanne



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a teaching certificate to work at an international school. You can sometimes get hired without the 2 years classroom experience, but this is rare. The school I work at has 1 teacher out of 65 who was hired after having had one year of teaching experience in her home country. It is virutally impossible to get hired without a teaching certificate at a reputable international school - everyone at the international school I work at has one. A MA, in almost anything, will usually get you a slightly higher salary.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two types of international schools in the world: ones in name only which pay accordingly and take anyone with a degree (and low pay) and the reputable ones (like Johanne's) which require a BEd or PGCE or equivalent teacher's certificate.
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