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thrifty



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a con dagi.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dagi wrote:
There is an international school in Nigeria that recruits new teachers every year, for different subjects.

"If you send us just $300, we can begin the processing of your work visa right away..."
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StrayCat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the Nigeria 'too good to be true' job I just posted about on the General Africa Forum.

Good money, spouse security, housing, decent benefits... hmm. Any decent international school in the country of your choosing if you have QTS status, PGCE, MEd, etc. Unless you're very lucky it takes a lot of hunting around, sending off resumes, filling in annoying application forms online...

Perhaps one of the nicer places in The Middle East for a few years? Maybe Oman, Qatar or UAE?

Just been offered a job (by phone) at an international school in Sharjah, UAE. Other people say it's a boring place but the money is decent. Just wondering if my wife (and baby son) could survive there without Thai food, friends, etc. Can find no info on this school whatsoever...

After many years in Thailand it's time for a change and I'm looking at Korea (again), Singapore, UAE or Saudi Arabia.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually there is an international school in Nigeria, around Ibadan, and it is affiliated with the UN. A former colleague of mine (who has her pgce equivalent from South Africa) has been there 4 years teaching grade 3 to the kids of UN agricultural workers. They live on some sort of...agrarian compound (huuuuuuuuge tracts of land, with housing and shops etc). It's totally legit. She's making very good money and is quite happy.

It's not all dodgy.
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eslbiz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: recommended countries Reply with quote

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/sos/warnings-en.asp

The above webpage is published by the Department of Foreign Affairs of the federal government of Canada. In category 'A' (every Canadian should leave) we have...

1. Afghanistan
2. Chad
3. Irag
4. Somalia
5. Easty Timor

Category 'B' is empty'

Category 'C' (slightly lower risk) is Haiti

Category 'D' has numerous countries (e.g. Sri Lanka) where only certain regions are dangerous.

Other governments have similar fact sheets. This is a beginning. The challenge will be to find hell-holes where the money is good. That probably means joining the tax-funded NGO and foreign aid gravy train.
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dagi



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thrifty, it's not a con. Too bad I did not keep the link, but it was posted on either the IBO website or I found it on the website of the German Ministry.
Lagos apparently has a very legal American, a British, a German, a Dutch and another small international school (prob. the one yaramaz was talking about).
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klaus1982



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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guangho wrote:
Being a principal at an international school pays anywhere from 70-100K according to some of the people I know. This was a recruiter, so he was probably taking some money with him. There is no way on this earth that I would go to KSA. Oman yes, Yemen yes, Kuwait if I must, but KSA...no.


Dream on... Laughing

BTW you'll need some real business management experience to become a principal of a decent school. Maybe do a managment study or firm economics first!?

As an eslteacher you will never make some serious money. 30k a year is probably the maximum... that's what 22 years old master graduates earn when they become their first job.

Klaus

My advice to the youngsters: get a msc at a respectable university and you have a chance to make money.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As an eslteacher you will never make some serious money. 30k a year is probably the maximum... that's what 22 years old master graduates earn when they become their first job.


I know EFLers who earn a lot more than this- depends a lot on where. In any case, depends on where you spend it, as well. $30k a year, where I am, would allow a lavish lifestyle that $150k wouldn't buy in NYC...it all depends.

By the way, Klaus- I suspect that either your first language is German, or you're making it look that way on purpose. Your written English looks pretty darn good overall, congrats. But if you're a teacher, could you review the use of "some" and "any?" And be careful with the "become," alright? It isn't the same in English, you know?


Best,
Justin
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Serious_Fun



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: high risk = high salary locations Reply with quote

eslbiz wrote:
It's about being a language mercenary.


what happened to your Myanmar adventure? Did you make contact with those individuals I PMed you about?

re: "danger pay": Who will take care of aging family members once you have been beheaded in a warzone..... Confused (God forbid)
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shuize



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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: recommended countries Reply with quote

eslbiz wrote:
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/sos/warnings-en.asp

The above webpage is published by the Department of Foreign Affairs of the federal government of Canada. In category 'A' (every Canadian should leave) we have...

1. Afghanistan
2. Chad
3. Irag
4. Somalia
5. Easty Timor

Category 'B' is empty'

Category 'C' (slightly lower risk) is Haiti

Category 'D' has numerous countries (e.g. Sri Lanka) where only certain regions are dangerous.

Other governments have similar fact sheets. This is a beginning. The challenge will be to find hell-holes where the money is good. That probably means joining the tax-funded NGO and foreign aid gravy train.


Interesting. Not knowing why Chad was on that list, I did a quick internet search.

Chad, like the others, is screwed.

According to Wikipedia, Chad is the most corrupt country in the world and one of the top 10 failed states. It is three times the size of California and only has a total of 267 kilometers of paved road. No railways noted. Only 13,000 fixed telephone lines in a country of approximately 10 million people. (See also: CIA World Fact Book)*

Increasing foreign investment in the oil sector may help to improve the overall situation, but decades of colonial mismanagement (France), post-independence civil war and continued ethnic strife along with refugees streaming in from Sudan do not paint a rosy picture. I think I'd look somewhere else for my ESL pot of gold.

* https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cd.html
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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30k a year is probably the maximum... that's what 22 years old master graduates earn when they become their first job.


A lot of Germans do not even take home $30,000 US a year. With the high tax rates one would be lucky to have $30,000 a year to spend. I make about $40,000 US net as an ESL teacher and I don't like in KSA!
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Not knowing why Chad was on that list, I did a quick internet search.
Short answer, Darfur.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
Short answer, Darfur.

You're right that the crisis in Darfur (Western Sudan) is spilling over into Chad. Of course, that alone wouldn't explain Chad's ranking with those other most dangerous states (if it did, one would expect Sudan to be included as well). I suspect the refugee and cross-border violence is just one of Chad's many problems. Any country where eighty percent of the population lives on subsistence farming and the per capita GDP is around $1,500 per year does not strike me as a particularly good place to be even without the refugee problems.

ETA: And if you have to ask why, take a look at the thread titled "kidnapping attempts" in this same general discussion forum.
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