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"Leeroy's words of evil"
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scot, do you only get one "teacher"? Usually my students call me "teacherteacher" to which I reply "yes studentstudent" They realise that I'm taking the P*** but it is so ingrained they can't help it
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:49 am    Post subject: teacherteacher ! Reply with quote

dmb is right. usually it is "Teacherteacher !" This is often followed by some attention-seeking question. My students are 19 years old but often behave like nine-year-olds. However they are certainly easier to teach than their agemates in Britain. Thank God I do not have to work there !

Students still have some respect for their teachers - especially for those with grey hair, like me. And their heads have not been filled with "Youth Culture."
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:59 am    Post subject: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Reply with quote

What I don't understand is how Leeroy can aford to get drunk in London on the awful wages that an EFL teacher earns there.
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kattie72



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students happily saying "hello!" as they leave to go home. (having been told time and time again, that no, we do not use hello in this context)

It must come from the fact that "ciao" means both hello and goodbye, hence the confusion.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steiner wrote:
gonna, wanna. In written essays! I think some of their teachers taught them this and they took off with it. Annoys me to no end.

For my (parents) sins, this Brit boy spent two years of his schooling at an American school in the Middle East. On our spelling lists were both the words gonna and wanna. I was young but even in my naivety, I knew something was horribly wrong.
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind if my students said "so-so". Most of them say "so-and-so" as in:

"How are you?"
"So-and-so."

It drives me nuts!
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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"So so" seems to be a loan-translation from Chinese "mama huhu", literally "horse-horse, tiger-tiger". I accept it though I don't encourage my students to drop it too often into conversations with me.
The vocative "teacher", on the other hand, invites a harsh response from me every time I hear it. I am of opinion Chinese must learn tol respect my name which defines me better than "teacher" and is an inalienable property of mine.
I also insist that the "hello" be replaced, whenever, by appropriate greetings such as "good morning...afternoon...evening..."

Where I have thrown the towel is... "see you next Tuesday, class!" and someone comes to tell me "do you mean THIS Tuesday or NEXT Tuesday?" To me, "next" is a superlative, so there is, in my mind, no justification for the use of "next" to mean the Tuesday AFTER this Tuesday".
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a conversation like Roger's example tonight. I tell them if the day is only a few days away to use "this" and to use "next" if it is more than 4 days away.
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: "Leeroy's words of evil" Reply with quote

leeroy wrote:
(Hell, I've never posted on here sober, I'm not going to start now...)

"Hello"
"Goodbye"
"Bye-bye"
"very"
"much/many" (in positive sentences)
"so-so"
"How are you? - Fine thankyou"
"cannot"
"delicious"
"diligent"

These are some of the words that are vastly overused by students worldwide. I consider it my personal mission to hammer them out, using violence if necessary. It will be the death of me before "very like" becomes an acceptable colllocation...


Are you kidding? I love these words. It is my bread and butter of teaching. I couldn't live without them, except for diligent. My students don't use this one.
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Capergirl



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guest of Japan wrote:
I had a conversation like Roger's example tonight. I tell them if the day is only a few days away to use "this" and to use "next" if it is more than 4 days away.


I've also had to explain to my students that "this" can mean a future time or a past time. For example, if it is Monday and I am talking about "this week", I am most likely indicating the future (the week that is just beginning), whereas if it is Friday and I am saying something about "this week", I am most likely indicating the past (the week that is just coming to an end).

To illustrate further:
On Monday, I may say "I am going to be very busy this week." (future)
On Friday, I may say, "I was very busy this week." (past)

This (pardon the pun) is one of the things my students tend to struggle with and no matter how much I explain it, they never seem to fully get it. Confused
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