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kestane · Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Istanbul

Well, if your American you really get a better deal for health care and cost of drugs. Nobody has *good* insurance in America, not even public school teachers who pay out of pocket ($200) to get a tooth pulled! I paid that 2 years ago in the U.S. and then I paid about $40 USD for the antibiotics. Here you can get the antibiotics for 7 fu**ing ytl and get your tooth pulled for around 60 ytl!!

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

yaramaz · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:05 am Post subject:

The pension isn't worth much these days, unless you devote all your working years to the public schools without interruption. I have no desire to spend 40 years teaching in a high school. I put my own money towards a private pension, as self employed people do. Most jobs in Canada don't pay a pension anymore anyway, especially since so many formerly full time positions are now being turned into part time or contractor jobs with few if any benifits . There is a govenment pension that everyone contributes to but it is piddly and shrinking every year and varies depending on your salary- a huge number of workers will get very little in the end (my parents had very good government jobs and a long track record of unchangıng employment and even they knew that most of their retirement funds would have to come from themselves.)

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

yaramaz.... how much is bilgi paying for 2 years experience?? aprox.

yaramaz · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:51 am Post subject:

Last year I got 2600/month plus the 160ytl meal card. I'm doing about the same now, except with better food and a driver and sane students Very Happy

tvik · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here

do any of the other comprable unis pay more??? is bilgi ok by comparison to the others??

dagi · Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 425

"I was referring to the language school teachers in western Europe, not the public school teachers (I know they make a lot) because we were talking tefl here. "

Ok, I thought so. But public school teachers don't get paid well everywhere. The teachers in Italy earn s.th. like 900-1000Euros net a month, the French are also not paid that well either.

elliot_spencer · Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 495

In England the salary for a state school teacher works out as �1750 gross (�21k for an NQT) In Italy (my sister is an Italian state school teacher) gets 1100 euros net per month 14 times a year.

justme · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 1944 Location: Istanbul

For the work teachers do, especially state school teachers, that pay is crap.

My mom teaches special ed in a public school (arguably the worst teaching work there is, but she loves it) in the US, and barely gets $45,000/ year. She's been teaching for about 25 years, and has an MA in her field. This is for 10+ hour days (each student needs an individual educational program written up regularly), and dealing with idiot parents and less-than-sane coworkers. Her retirement will be crap because she's lived in 3 different states in this time, and she didn't work for 15 years to raise us kids (you'd think they'd be nicer than this in a female-dominated profession). She'll be forced into retirement at 65 (5 years from now), at which point she can continue working, collect her petty retirement, but lose most of the benefits.

She gets a few personal leave days which she used up this year because her mother and aunt died, so when she came here on her spring break to see the baby, she missed a day or 2 of work and had to pay the substitute out of her salary. Substitutes apparently make a lot more (hourly) than teachers.

Decent medical insurance though.

calsimsek · Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey

If you have the right paper work and you build up a good net work, you can earn good money. I know alot of people here who would not get out of bed for less than 4000 to 5000 Y.T.L a month.

As for a pension; once you become a citizen you can get a Turkish pension or you can go privet (less than $100 a month) and after about 15 to 20 years you will have a pension equal to, if not over what you could get at home.

ITs not a dream run and its not that simple and it takes a hell of a long time to build up a good net work. So perhapes we ''don't have it made''
but its not that bad if you put in the work...

thrifty · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van

Could you post the details including maths of how you can go `privet` for less than 100 dollars a month and still get a UK/US/Australian/Canadian level pension?