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kev7161 · Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China

I agree that if one were to stick around in one position long enough, then one may end up seeing significant salary raises and other "bonuses". I think one major point that many seemed to miss in this long-winded thread is that so few FTs stay at one school for very long. Why would any school offer to pay too much when they have no idea what quality of employee they're going to get (regardless of that "stellar" resume they received)? Also, schools may be reluctant to keep even the best FT around if they know they can hire another "face" for next school year at some of these low, low salaries.

My advice is: if you find a decent school, stay there! Show them how good of a teacher you can be and how reliable you can be. There's a good chance you will NEVER get rich off this school, but you may see some decent financial rewards down the line.

jammish · Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1704

I agree Kev. My current job is a damned good one and I'm quite torn at the moment between returning home to do the PGCE or staying here if they want me to stay.

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

Jammish, can't you do a PGCE by distance ed? I know the PGCTESOL can be done like this through many Australian universities. The only trick is being in a large enough centre to find someone qualified and willing to supervise your practicum: in this case, a Masters or above in App Ling or TESOL.

FuzzX · Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 122

Thanks, needed a general idea of what people are earning there.

Everyone knows the people without education are the ones making all the money. Have you ever met a DOS with more than a grade school education...me neither. Very Happy

gengrant · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:35 am Post subject:

gengrant · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:

Is it just my imagination, or are more places looking for FE who are already living in China? IMHO I think that places are looking to save kuai by not having to pay airfare over. If you're already here, it is cheaper for them and therefore they see you as a more desireable candidate. Any comments?

Cool

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

bendan · Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 739 Location: North China

mondrian · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject:

jammish · Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1704

jammish · Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1704

Doctors and dentists only earn around the 12 quid an hour mark? Do me a lemon!

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

Cognition · Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 62

That is not a PGCE or an equivalent. Also, note how is states that "No work experience required." That's a bit strange for a post-graduate certificate in TESOL.

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

My mistake. I thought Jammish was interested in a post grad TESOL certificate.
I'm not aware that Australia has a PGCE, and I work "in the system". A B.Ed is the minimum qualification for teaching in the school sector, and that involves two major practicums, each of around 6 weeks. The PG TESOL is primarily [but not exclusively] aimed at qualified teachers who wish to move into the ESL field, where there is certainly a shortage of trained people at the moment.
ps, Cognition, I believe the no work experience required clause means within the ESL/EFL field, in the same way that someone could do a PGC in teacher librarianship without having previously worked in a library.

I deleted the link referred to so that this page could be read normally!

Anda · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province

Um do a Masters in Education in Linguistics with The University of Southern Queensland and forget the practicums and do it all by distance ed.,