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Manadeel



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Background Check Reply with quote

Does anybody have any ideas about how I would go about getting a police background check done in Saudi? Something along the lines of the CRB check in the UK. My next employer requires one. I contacted the consulate in Jeddah, but they didn't reply to my email.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of anyone doing this. Check with the FCO in London - if necessary through the office of your MP.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which police are doing the police check in which country, and who is asking for it?
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Manadeel



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, forgot to mention, I'm off on exit only!


In order to work in some English educational establishments an enhanced CRB check is required. This involves a check to ensure you have no criminal background that may put your charges at risk. It is generally done in order to protect children and any vulnerable young adults you may come into contact with through your job. It is easily attainable via you employer. A simple form needs filling in.

If you have lived abroad, they will ask you for a similar check from any country where you were resident.

I need one because I have lived in Saudi. Problem is how to get one. I don't think they have any equivalent agency. So, I was thinking about popping along to the local police station..... which was about the time of my first post.
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manadeel wrote:
Sorry, forgot to mention, I'm off on exit only!


In order to work in some English educational establishments an enhanced CRB check is required. This involves a check to ensure you have no criminal background that may put your charges at risk. It is generally done in order to protect children and any vulnerable young adults you may come into contact with through your job. It is easily attainable via you employer. A simple form needs filling in.

If you have lived abroad, they will ask you for a similar check from any country where you were resident.

I need one because I have lived in Saudi. Problem is how to get one. I don't think they have any equivalent agency. So, I was thinking about popping along to the local police station..... which was about the time of my first post.


As far as I know SA does not have an equivalent of CBR check, and is not required in SA. I know some SA institions provide a letter called 'good behaviour and character', but still is not equivalent to the CBR check.
In UK, CBR check is also required in some universities.
I doubt if the SA police can provide you with this type/equivalent of CBR check, because it is related more with you current employer who will provide information about you. I think what you can do is to get the Uk CBR check form and take it to your employer to be filled and signed nd stamped by them, then to be legalised with the SA foreign office and the British Embassy. You may need to use Wasta for for the form to be filled and signed by the employer or the police in SA. Also, if you are holding British passport, why not contact the Uk embassy, they might advise you on the best option for your case.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're going to have fun. As far as the British CBR goes only an affiliated organization can request it.

There is no Saudi equivalent though, so if they don't accept the fact that you have all four limbs intact as proof of non-criminal activity, you need to persuade somebody to write something on a piece of official looking paper and hope that will satisfy your employer in England.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks to me like just one more reason for NOT returning to Her Britannic Majesty's Realm !
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If more employers did back ground checks, less nuts would come to KSA. I know one fool who straps a gun around town with him, threatens to hit people and drives around drunk as a lark. Time will catch up with him, but it has occurred to me that bank ground checks would catch these types of mistakes before they are bought off and sent to work in Saudi.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Saudi government does do background checks for the US and Canada, though not for the UK, probably because you can't get them.

The guy you mentioned is probably ex-armed forces. Probably left with a squeaky clean military record.

As for drunken driving, or carrying concealed weapons, that tends to be an offence committed by Saudis in the Kingdom.
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The guy you mentioned is probably ex-armed forces. Probably left with a squeaky clean military record.


Personally, I don't think any colleges in the Middle East should employ teachers with a military background. Just too much potential for all sorts of 'issues'.
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Queen of Sheba



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very observant of you Cleo, I am genuinely impressed with your wiles and guiles. Military types should not be working as ESL teachers in KSA, their opinions are normally ultra republican and conservative, they don�t recognize Palestine, and they think Bush is a demi-God. That�s the American ones anyway, the others I have found to be equally obnoxious and violent, in their own ways.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to be forgetting how many of the ESL gigs here are military contracts.
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am genuinely impressed with your wiles and guiles.


Why thank you, Your Highness. Be assured that the feeling is mutual.

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You seem to be forgetting how many of the ESL gigs here are military contracts.


Well yes, I suppose we ladies do overlook that fact. However, even in a military setting, the job of an ESL teacher is - guess what - to teach ESL, not to propagate their own political views. And even though the Gulf 'armed forces' may buy their weapons from the US or Britain, or may even be 'advised' by people from these lands, by no stretch of the imagination does that suggest that your average Gulf recruit shares the worldview of your average GI Joe from Kansas.

But we all knew that already, didn't we?
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Van Norden



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We military hacks might be employed as 'teachers' but, in reality, our job involves anything but teaching. The teaching side is just for show. Given what our work entails, an ex-military "type" might be better suited than, say, your garden-variety tefl nerd.

And let's not be so quick with the generalisations. Take James Blunt, for example. Sure, he's guilty of crimes against pop music, but should someone like him be barred from coming to KSA to teach English just because of his past military service?

Queenie and Cleo seem to be (once again) expressing a desire to 'cleanse' Arabia of anyone with views contrary to their own.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Queenie and Cleo seem to be (once again) expressing a desire to 'cleanse' Arabia of anyone with views contrary to their own.


As I've said before, I really don't give a hoot what views my colleagues hold, so long as they don't feel the need to try to convert students to their own agendas. I have known this to happen, and yes, some of the people concerned have been former military types (though sometimes I'm not that convinced of th 'former' part).

So yes, I do think that colleges should, at the very least, exercise considerable caution when considering the employment of an ex (or 'ex') military type, particularly if that person has spent time in the US army. I have had students express this opinion to me as well, I might add.
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