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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Verbal tics? Reply with quote

We all know the South Park teacher who punctuates every sentence with "Mmmkay" and we all find it very amusing. But when I started teaching a few years ago I started picking up a similar habit of saying "Right, okay then..." very frequently in a lesson. Over time I tried to say it less often as I was worried it looked like I didn't know what I was doing in the classroom. One of my students also pointed out that I said "Oops" every time I made a mistake on the whiteboard but I had been completely unaware of it until she pointed it out. From then on I tried to analyse the way I spoke in class and eliminate annoying and repetitive "verbal tics" as I didn't want to end up like the teacher in South Park.

Have you any of these verbal tics that you are aware of?

Without wanting to make you paranoid, do you think you may have some you aren't aware of?

Also, I have a co-worker who seems to say "no worries" about fifty times a day in the staffroom. Yet such is his general level of incompetence, "no worries" is the least appropriate thing he can say. He also seems to have some involuntary scratching-and-rubbing-his-chest problem which becomes more apparent the more stressed he is. When I teach in the classroom next door to him I see him going in with photocopies of listening exercises from textbooks chosen, apparently, at random. From what I can here the class consists of "Riiiiiiiight, Okaaaaaaaaaay, tick the boxes, okay? No worries." Then a CD is played. The process is then repeated a few times until the end of the lesson.

I think I should say something to him, if not about the poor quality of his lessons, to make him aware of his habits but he teeters precariously on the edge of a mental abyss at the best of times and I'm not sure if my comments would be appreciated.

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: Verbal tics? Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
We all know the South Park teacher who punctuates every sentence with "Mmmkay" and we all find it very amusing. But when I started teaching a few years ago I started picking up a similar habit of saying "Right, okay then..." very frequently in a lesson. Over time I tried to say it less often as I was worried it looked like I didn't know what I was doing in the classroom. One of my students also pointed out that I said "Oops" every time I made a mistake on the whiteboard but I had been completely unaware of it until she pointed it out. From then on I tried to analyse the way I spoke in class and eliminate annoying and repetitive "verbal tics" as I didn't want to end up like the teacher in South Park.

Have you any of these verbal tics that you are aware of?

Without wanting to make you paranoid, do you think you may have some you aren't aware of?

Also, I have a co-worker who seems to say "no worries" about fifty times a day in the staffroom. Yet such is his general level of incompetence, "no worries" is the least appropriate thing he can say. He also seems to have some involuntary scratching-and-rubbing-his-chest problem which becomes more apparent the more stressed he is. When I teach in the classroom next door to him I see him going in with photocopies of listening exercises from textbooks chosen, apparently, at random. From what I can here the class consists of "Riiiiiiiight, Okaaaaaaaaaay, tick the boxes, okay? No worries." Then a CD is played. The process is then repeated a few times until the end of the lesson.

I think I should say something to him, if not about the poor quality of his lessons, to make him aware of his habits but he teeters precariously on the edge of a mental abyss at the best of times and I'm not sure if my comments would be appreciated.

Any ideas?


I'm all for the straight facts and brutal honesty. You should tell him, "Are you aware that you do this?" and list them. I'm curious to see what he has to say about his "involuntary scratching-and-rubbing-his-chest problem."

I think it's also very healthy to discuss lessons with your coworkers.

If anything, by speaking to your coworker, you can hopefully reduce the "no worries" to around 20+ times...small steps!

I have a coworker who has some similar disturbing problems. He constantly repeats the same stories, over and over again, thinking that he hasn't told them before. And when he does tell the stories again, he tells them exactly the same...like he has memory burn on these stories and he can't tell them in a different way. They are exactly the same, with the same laugh, at the same time, and the same hand gestures. I have heard the same Tuffy Rhodes story and the printer's apprentice story 1000 times.

This same person washes his hands 20+ a day. This same person. This same person mispronounces students' names on purpose, because he thinks it's funny. He schedules 5 minutes in his lesson plans for roll call. He doesn't attend school functions (not like anyone wants him too) because of the classic, "I can't. I've got 2 kids, mate! I have to take care of Bubby."

Different people make the world go around. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I presume you practice what you preach and tell your co-worker the brutal truth as you advise me to do to mine?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once did a study on another teacher's language (when I was working on my MA). She said 'ok?' with the questioning tone very often, and had actually been told by management that it was a problem. However, I was able to find evidence in the ESL research literature that indicates checking in with your students in this manner is actually a pretty effective part of teacher talk, indicating a relatively strong connection with your learners.

If it's a distracting tic, then it's probably worth trying to break. But if it's a connecting technique, there are some good reasons to keep it.

I asked my students in the latest bloc, as a part of a consideration of personal tics that distract, to tell me whether I have distracting behaviors. I expected to hear comments about the fact that I cannot be still for long (one very good reason to be a teacher - freedom to stand up and move around as I wish, within reason). I did get this one, but also learned that I play with my hair in a distracting way. It's much shorter now, since this comment! At least, until I can break the habit...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that most of us probably have our own favourite "ok" tic; for me, it's probably "right...." during many transitions.

One point, though; be careful about forming opinions of other teachers based on what you hear through their classroom walls; in my experience, nobody's teaching sounds particularly impressive from the room next door.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I can see where the use of certain language is useful and in fact the "okay" one is not too bad. Sometimes it indicates to students when you are finishing an activity or about to start a new one and you can find the students respond well to them.

That said I think it is also a good idea to critique yourself from time to time and to make sure you aren't starting to sound robotic (ha ha). I think that all kinds of problems can become ingrained in your intonation and vocabulary choice after teaching EFL/ESL for a long time. You can form certain unbreakable habits which turn into eccentricities if you're not careful, mmmkay?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
You can form certain unbreakable habits which turn into eccentricities if you're not careful, mmmkay?


I used to have the habit of grinning and drawing in breath when I paused to look at lesson plans/notes/etc, so as to make a sound similar to a soft "shhh". I know it sounds bizarre...It is difficult for me to explain properly! Smile But suffice it to say I never noticed this habit...

UNTIL one day I noticed a group of students laughing at me...they politely informed me of my "sound effect". Laughing

I think that every few months we should view a video of ourselves teaching a lesson. If that is good enough for professional athletes then why not educators?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Then I presume you practice what you preach and tell your co-worker the brutal truth as you advise me to do to mine?


Devil's advocate here . . . Twisted Evil

I've worked in too many schools with too many teachers to spend my time evaluating people unless they want such an evaluation. Many don't, most won't listen to what you have to say - and often you will create an unpleasant work atmosphere. My experience (primarily university level since 1992 - in four countries) is that we all get along better if we keep our noses in our own classrooms.

The kind of feedback suggested is for supervisors, department heads, and DOSes to take care of.

But that is just me. Rolling Eyes

If a colleague asks your opinion - that is a different issue.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many people aren't aware of it. Try recording yourself and you might be surprised.

I discovered I say 'take a break' far too often in lessons.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Ted; there's little point in stirring up trouble at work.

Serious Fun's suggestion of recording each other's lessons is a good one, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During my CELTA course my lessons were filmed... When watching them back, I realised I had an "ok" tic (affirmative AND interrogative Wink) but more embarrassingly I looked like a rabbit when doing a gesture to indicate the present tense. Indicating the past tense is fairly obvious - you wave your hand over your shoulder... For the present tense, I had both hands in front of me and repeatedly pointed to the ground (which I now wish had swallowed me up).

I now use timelines rather than bunny gestures Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the rabbit thing sounds cute! My worst tick is that I say "anyhoooooo" when something stressful, akward or embarrassing happens in class. Most recent example. One student started laying into another student because she thought the other student chatters too much during class. When they were done, I clapped my hands together and said cheerfully "Anyhoooo!" then changed the topic. I hate that I say this word, but it's hard to stop myself.
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