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cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

....most schools do not provide a budget for employee advestising...

KES · Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 722

Horizontal Hero · Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject:

jammish · Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1704

But, HH, when I was working in London, I was saving nothing and going nowhere, fast. This was after getting a degree from a good UK university (in the top 10 in britain), a good education, etc. Now I save about 100,000 RMB a year. That is NOT peanuts. A hell of a lot of people in Britain today struggle to save even a fifth of that!!! People should stop claiming that most people in the west are easily able to save loads of money, because it isn't true. Just look at any UK newspaper, you will see ads like "Amazing scheme - save 50 pounds a month!". Salaries are higher, but so are costs. Sure those on really top lawyer etc salaries can save a lot, but many people on average salaries find it very hard to save money - just look at any number of articles on the level of debt in the UK etc, and you will see the point.

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

Testify brother!
So many "at home" subsist from paycheque to paycheque, relying on credit in between. "Buying a house" is not the best financial road to take. You're paying someone else money rather than making it yourself. Trust me, I've bought three. Its only a good strategy if you can pay it off in say 6 years on a 30 yer mortgage.
Jammish's 100,000rmb is indeed more than most people could save in a western country, and wisely invested should be getting him 15%.

On the other hand, HHs advice re: getting qualified is also on the mark. Why? Because most people eventually go home, and those savings will get eaten up quickly unless you're qualified for a decent job. Secondly, China provides a great opportunity to build your professional qualifications. You have the time, which you'd never have working a 9-5 in any western country.

lostinasia · Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 466

It's that whole "reverse nature" idea I think. The jobs that do get posted are the ones you usually do not want. Two days ago there was an advertisement for Taian City and it's medical school. Speaking on behalf of 4 teachers that I personally know ... don't go there. The job and your working duties are fine all-in-all; it is the administration, professionalism (or lack of), the city, being treated fairly and equally, be directly lied to, pandemic of rumors, and so on that make it a not so worthwhile job. If you have specific questions about this location I'm happy to answer in private.

So I'm sorry you can't find the good jobs posted here ... I'm sure the pay-to-post method has some small part in that.

Horizontal Hero · Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:33 am Post subject:

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

james s · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 676 Location: Raincity

eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

william wallace · Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between

Many of you all know that I've been in Beijing for ages, and had experienced an upward trend in money saved for about 8-9 years, and then it started going down. We all come from different economic, social...situations,but for me the gauge of a good job was seeing how close I came to middle-class Canadian life. Most Canadians were/are in debt, but so goes the world of credit...Then again I know many Canadians that cry poor-mouth,but in fact are doing very well.
And anyhow, academics don't pay-get a trade