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A question about the ME/UAE
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: A question about the ME/UAE Reply with quote

adorabilly wrote:
now I now the UAE is very safe for foreigners. It is no where near iraq and it's unstability, not near afganistan, or even Iran....


It's nowhere near London or Washington or Houston...

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How do you view Iran having nuclear centerfuges enriching uranium right now? Do you believe their claims of peaceful nuclear development? Or do you worry about an iran with nuclear weapons?


Iran is very probably developing nukes, IMO, but is unlikely to use them against its near neighbors, if against anyone at all. All the noise is probably just that: noise.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: A question about the ME/UAE Reply with quote

007 wrote:
I worry about USA nuclear weapons than Iran's! Because USA is the only country in this lovely planet who used an Atomic Bomb against another country, Japan.


I worry about your grammar. If you can't put a sentence together, what makes you think you can understand complex questions of international relations?
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

007 wrote:
I think schools, colleges, universities in Egypt and ME are much, much safer than the ones in USA.


Sure they are, as long as you don't happen to hold political views that oppose those of the government.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adorabilly wrote:
I was asking because you all have been there and done that.


'Specially me. Smile
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Iamherebecause



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had any problems here myself but my daughters tire of the stares and hisses (and they are conservative in the way they dress compared with many other expat teens). Teenaged boys also sometimes attract the sort of attention they don't want. Crime? I have heard of purses snatched in shops, and also of purses full of money being handed in to the police by taxi drivers. I've heard of the maid dragged into a car and raped, and the teenaged boys attacked arbitrarily who were rescued by an Emirati who was passing by in his car.

Much crime goes unreported, just as much human kindness goes unreported.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look - if there's going to be a war -- we might as well have a front seat, eh?

We contemplate the Iran situation regularly. Just the other day, our dear teenage son was in a panic, since it seemed to be port day --- and the docks were really full. "Do you think they're retreating from the war?" he asks..... No, it's just a busy day, we reply.

Iran is not going to have nuclear capacities in the near future. It takes 3,000 centrifuges working non-stop for a year to produce enough fuel for a single warhead. They barely have their units working, and there's not 3,000 --- and they don't have the right fuel to do what they need to do, anyway (Russia isn't helping, since Iran is behind in payments).

Neither are they likely to attack the UAE. Nearly a quarter of the UAE's population is Iranian, and Iran knows full well that any harassment would result in an immediate and resolute response, since Iran is virtually surrounded by western troops (UAE, Saudi, Bahrain, Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan all have troops).

We've seen one incident of violence -- and that's when a camel escaped from the back of a truck, and didn't want to get penned back in.

No --- we don't wax eloquent about the UAE. It's not perfect. That said, physical safety is among our lesser concerns. The streets in the westwere more dangerous --- and a lot less colorful.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uaeobserver wrote:
The streets in the westwere more dangerous --- and a lot less colorful.


Yes I couldn't agree more .. those cafe-lined Parisian boulevards and Italian piazzas are so mundane ... I much prefer the zero pedestrian culture of the UAE ... all those cars fizzing buy make for quite a day's viewing ...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

globalnomad2 wrote:
. But I think a lot of people in these threads have vested interests in convincing themselves it's a paradise here. So, I'm sure they stay here during the summer vacation--why would they want to go anywhere else but this paradise?


As much as I hate to ... I'll have to disagree ... we haven't left for the last three years ... it's been fantastic ... with the money we've saved, we've been able to have our own padded-room built and been able to buy a set of designer straight jackets ...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we're on the topic of safety on and off, my esteemed poster-colleagues have forgotten that the question of physical safety is not restricted to violent crime. The roads and streets of the UAE, Kuwait and KSA are the most dangerous in the world. The unskilled maniacs on the roads can kill you just as dead as a thug with a gun. (One time in Saudi I was confronted by a maniac who tried to run me off the road AND pointed a gun at me. Double jeopardy. Yes, I know it happens elsewhere too. But at least, in some countries far away, people know how to drive).

About colorful streets and neighborhoods: Even suburban streets in the US are far more colorful. It's called Green. It's called Quiet. How many of us can live in a house in the Gulf with a real back yard, with green grass and real trees that don't need to be watered and space to run around in and play with the cat? Without the dust. And the heat. OK, you might reasonably ask, why don't you shut up and get out, then? Well...OK...in this field, with retirement looming in 6 to 8 years...it's the money. It used to be the money in Japan, bu tno longer, not for over a decade....Were I an engineer or something, San Francisco or Singapore would do nicely. Sigh.
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Bindair Dundat



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

globalnomad2 wrote:
The roads and streets of the UAE, Kuwait and KSA are the most dangerous in the world.


Rubbish. The streets of Doha are the most dangerous in the world.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK--we are forewarned.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bindair Dundat wrote:
globalnomad2 wrote:
The roads and streets of the UAE, Kuwait and KSA are the most dangerous in the world.


Rubbish. The streets of Doha are the most dangerous in the world.

More rubbish.
The streets of Riyadh and jeddah are more dangerous than Doha, and Saudi Arabia has the highest traffic accidents in the world.
http://www.transport-links.org/transport_links/filearea/publications/1_771_Pa3568.pdf
http://www.transport-links.org/transport_links/filearea/publications/1_771_Pa3568.pdf

The world's most dangerous road is in Bolivia!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6136268.stm
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Iamherebecause



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this stuff about most dangerous roads can only be as reliable as the statistics kept by the country where the roads are.

That said, it is only since I came to the UAE that I have had colleagues seriously upset as students of theirs have been killed in car accidents. Luckily I have not been directly affected in this way myself - though one colleague lost a daughter, a student lost a niece, another student lost his brother-in-law, and other students have been involved in car accidents of varying degrees of seriousness.

The roads here are generally good: several lanes, decent surface, well lit at night. They are rarely wet and never icy (although drifting sand can be a hazard sometimes). So the accident rate is down to the bad driving.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iamherebecause wrote:
So the accident rate is down to the bad driving.


Which is surprising when you think that some of the drivers on the roads out there have been behind the wheel since they were 12 years old ...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As old as 12? Nooooo - way younger, if you sit on Daddy's knee to steer...
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