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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006
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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Declaration of General Happiness in KSA |
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| I have discovered that I am happy working, living and generally being in Saudi Arabia, after a few years of trial and error, I have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi. I wonder how many of you feel the same, despite the pain and anger that many non-Saudis understandably feel here. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2684
Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Declaration of General Happiness in KSA |
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| Queen of Sheba wrote: |
| I have discovered that I am happy working, living and generally being in Saudi Arabia, after a few years of trial and error, I have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi. I wonder how many of you feel the same, despite the pain and anger that many non-Saudis understandably feel here. |
Human life Survival Training!
Of course, there are a lot of people who are happy working and living in the magic kingdom.
Personally, sometimes I am happy, and other times I am not happy at all, it is like weather, sometimes hot, and sometimes cold!
If we apply the theory of �natural survival�, you will find that some people have short life �resilience� to harsh surrounding environment (physically and mentally), and they cannot survive in a such harsh environment, so that they may end up in big psychological problems. Whereas other, have long term life �resilience� where they can, as you said, by �trial and error� adjust to their surrounding environment! These people, I think, have some special characteristics not found in other human species, which make them resist and enjoy the surrounding environment, regardless of its negative sides!
I think some people, especially the un-happy ones, need to participate in a �life survival training� workshop for 3 to 4 weeks to get used to the life and work in the magic kingdom.
This is my philosophy of �life survival� in SA!
Good night, I am going to sleep, it was a long and busy day today! |
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1222
Location: Spain
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Declaration of General Happiness in KSA |
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| Queen of Sheba wrote: |
| I have discovered that I am happy working, living and generally being in Saudi Arabia, after a few years of trial and error, I have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi. I wonder how many of you feel the same, despite the pain and anger that many non-Saudis understandably feel here.[/quote |
Do many non-Saudis suffer pain and anger in the Kingdom? Why are you so obsessed with others' opinions of KSA and why do you do you find it so so difficult to live with views of the country that differ from yours?
People considering a move to the Kingdom would probably enjoy reading a range of opinions and not only those which meet your approval. |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| after a few years of trial and error, I have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi. |
Now if you'd got the lobotomy done by a professional at the airport to start with, instead of going the DIY route! |
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trapezius
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 1670
Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| People considering a move to the Kingdom would probably enjoy reading a range of opinions and not only those which meet your approval. |
Please do tell where she is suppressing opinions that differ from hers...? You can start as many threads as you like touting all the positive aspects of living here.
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| Do many non-Saudis suffer pain and anger in the Kingdom? |
Yes. Take it from someone who has been here 22+ years, and has heard anecdotes of injustice, frustration, pain, anger, and sadness from thousands of people of tens of nationalities, from street sweepers, to taxi drivers, to secretaries, to teachers, to doctors, and even business owners.
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| Why are you so obsessed with others' opinions of KSA |
Her original post comes as far from obsessive. In fact, it is you who seem to be obsessed with her views about SA, and her, according to you, difficulty in living with views that differe from hers. (She made no mention at all of the "views of the country" differing from hers) |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| The Sheikh has been uptight ever since I exiled him to Spain. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Take it from someone who has been here 22+ years, |
He must have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi for 22+ years!!
I wonder what is his % of �happiness� and �un-happiness� of �being� in SA during these 22 yrs? |
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Robski
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
Posts: 50
Location: Middle Europe
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| trapezius wrote: |
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| People considering a move to the Kingdom would probably enjoy reading a range of opinions and not only those which meet your approval. |
Please do tell where she is suppressing opinions that differ from hers...? You can start as many threads as you like touting all the positive aspects of living here.
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| Do many non-Saudis suffer pain and anger in the Kingdom? |
Yes. Take it from someone who has been here 22+ years, and has heard anecdotes of injustice, frustration, pain, anger, and sadness from thousands of people of tens of nationalities, from street sweepers, to taxi drivers, to secretaries, to teachers, to doctors, and even business owners.
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| Why are you so obsessed with others' opinions of KSA |
Her original post comes as far from obsessive. In fact, it is you who seem to be obsessed with her views about SA, and her, according to you, difficulty in living with views that differe from hers. (She made no mention at all of the "views of the country" differing from hers) |
I think everyone on the Saudi forum, and, yes, I do include myself here, is obsessive/ed but more than anything, people get upset about what people say about others' opinions.
Here I could accuse this writer of being obsessed about what who-is-it said about what-ever-her-name said ad infinitum; I won't.
I think we can all stop accusing each other of missing points and getting obsessed and failing to understand the key point.
Read the Polish forum - it's all about food and meeting people and having a nice time. |
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Cleopatra
Joined: 28 Jun 2003
Posts: 3657
Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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It often seems to me that complaining ad infinitum about Saudi Arabia is seen as a badge of honour among many expats here, particularly the men. If you are miserable here, there are a number of steps you can take, among them that of leaving the country for good. If that is not feasable, blame your own economic mismanagement/poor life choices/unemployablity etc. KSA is what it is, and it most certainly is not everyone's (or even anyone's) idea of paradise. If it is the best option available to you at this given time, then that, as I say, is your own business.
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| Read the Polish forum - it's all about food and meeting people and having a nice time. |
While I dont' generally hang out on forums concerning countries I have no intention of relocating to, any time I have chanced across the Poland forum I have noticed an inordinate amount of posts dedicated to female organs and the willingness (or not) of the local women to indulge in one night stands with impoverished (for that is what they usually are) ESL teachers. If that's your thing, good, I wish you all the best for your imminent relocation to Poland. Just dont' expect a tax-free salary and rent-free apartment along with the hot 'chicks'. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Robski wrote: |
| Read the Polish forum - it's all about food and meeting people and having a nice time. |
I wonder why Robski spend more time in the SA and UK forums than in the Polish one (3 posts only)?
11 posts in Saudi Arabia Forum !!
09 Posts for UK Forum !!
03 posts in Polish Forum !!
01 post in Germany Forum !!
So, what about this post in the Polish forum, is it about Food, meeting people and having a nice time. ??
| Robski on 7th April, in the Polish Forum, wrote wrote: |
With my veins running thick with Manx blood I must put in a word for those unfortunates from the Isle of Man whose parents and grandparents are all Manx.
Since this little island is not part of the EU - or the UK - it's much harder to be Manx than Irish (You are lucky! Some dream of being Irish!)
Poor thorough-bred Manx folk cannot work anywhere without a work permit, and it can be hard to get hired in the UK (tax laws, national insurance numbers etc.) Sometimes the answer might be 'The Isle of Who?' That job ad. should say 'No Manx or Channel Islands need apply because it's a bugger to get you paper work sorted out.' |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Melo Drama School
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| A doctor told me that it's when a person stops complaining that he should start thinking about getting out ... |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| It seems that misery loves company and gets aggressive when others are not miserable. How else could a simply fluffy post about the pursuit of happiness create such controversy? |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Fluffy, nice word, Q. of Sheba!
Fluffy it sounds like �Falafel� in Arabic. I think it has the same meaning!  |
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trapezius
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 1670
Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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He must have mastered the art of 'being' in Saudi for 22+ years!!
I wonder what is his % of �happiness� and �un-happiness� of �being� in SA during these 22 yrs? |
Yup, I surely have "mastered" the art of being in this place, but that's only because I was born here, unfortunately. Still doesn't mean I am happy here!
Grew up here, finished HS, and then spent 1 year in Turkey, and 6.5 years in the US. Came back here in 2003.
Percent of happiness: 20
Percent of unhappiness: 80
That's the average. Some days are different than others, and the happiness could vary from 0% to 50%. But most of the time, between 10% and 20%. |
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Cleopatra
Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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I find it interesting that people can so confidently put percentage figures on their happiness levels - personally I don't think happiness is something so easy to quantify, or even define.
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Having said all that, I do think there is something distinctly sad about having so few options that you chose to take up residence in a country where your happiness level (?) is about 15% on average. |
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