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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Pay |
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Is the pay in Japan enough to support a spouse? |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Pay |
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Is the pay in Japan enough to support a spouse? |
Please. Nowhere near vague enough. Try again.
Or at least think about your own country; if someone were to ask you if the pay there was enough to support a spouse do you think you could give a straight yes/no answer? I hardly think so. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I assumed it wouldn't be enough. I just thought I would ask, since I was actually ignorant to the fact. Thanks. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes as the head of a major crime organisation based out of a Roppongi Hills penthouse I find my income is sufficent to support a spouse and a couple of mistresses in Hawaii and the Phillipines. Still I have more month at the end of the money as it were.
Honestly I have no idea how those eikawa teachers can cope supporting themselves let alone a spouse. |
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chirp
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 148
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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-3E- wrote: |
I assumed it wouldn't be enough. I just thought I would ask, since I was actually ignorant to the fact. Thanks. |
umm -3E-,
I think the sheik was asking for additional details, he didn't actually answer your question. |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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-3E- wrote: |
I assumed it wouldn't be enough. I just thought I would ask, since I was actually ignorant to the fact. Thanks. |
When you say "the pay in Japan" bear in mind that not everyone gets the same salary. Are you talking about eikaiwa schools such as NOVA, GEOS etc that pay an average of 250,000 yen a month? Or dispatch ALT companies that often pay a lot less? Or JET salaries that are higher than the majority of eikaiwa companies but don't provide accommodation for non-working spouses? University salaries which pay a lot more? Private high school salaries? International school salaries? Or some employment unrelated to EFL/ESL?
If your questions are so lazily vague as your OP then don't expect others to put in a huge effort to answer the question for you.
Also you are not providing any information about the expected lifestyles of you and your spouse (I assume they are the people you are talking about, although that wasn't clear in the OP either). Do you like going out drinking a lot or staying in? Do you expect to live in a rural or an urban area?
I should also say that there have been a number of posts regarding supporting dependents before and if you search the forum for 'em then you may find what you're looking for. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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You're right. I was quite vague, in part because of ignorance. I do understand that surely there are many variables and combinations that would have to be factored in to the equation to give an adequate answer. It's not that I was trying to be lazy, but my ignorance of the general idea of the field of teaching in Japan and the cost of living makes it extremely difficult to do an adequate search. I suppose I should have worded it a little better so whomever read the question had a better grasp on what I was wanting to know though, so I am at fault in that and apologize for not being so clear in my question. What I meant is generally speaking can a person generate enough income to support a spouse teaching in Japan. A simple yes or no would suffice, as then I would know if doing research is worth my time. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Since you are ignorant of teaching in Japan (your own words), I can assume you have no experience here and little qualification. That leaves you most likely with a typical eikaiwa salary, therefore I'd say "no". |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Garbage in, garbage out. |
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Sour Grape
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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If your spouse is Japanese, I would say that an eikaiwa salary is enough to live in, as she'll be able to spot the best discounts etc in Supermarkets, store point cards etc. I know plenty of couples who do and have done this.
A foreign couple new to Japan, which I assume is more like your situation, will find it harder. Depends how much rent you'll be paying. Any more than 75 000 a month and it might be a struggle. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Gordon wrote: |
Since you are ignorant of teaching in Japan (your own words), I can assume you have no experience here and little qualification. That leaves you most likely with a typical eikaiwa salary, therefore I'd say "no". |
Yes ignorant about the field of teaching in Japan... Of course that would be using definition number three below. There is nothing for me to be ashamed of for not knowing about teaching in Japan because I have never taught in Japan. Being ignorant about the teaching field in Japan doesn't mean I have no qualifications, it only means I obviously don't have any experience teaching in Japan. Thank you for your kind answer about eikawa schools not paying enough to support a spouse. Though you failed to answer the question at hand.
The question was " Generally speaking can a person generate enough money teaching in Japan to support a spouse?"
Below I have left a definition of ignorant, and generally ( which uses the example of generally speaking) for those who are a little bit rusty on the meaning of particular words.
ig�no�rant (gnr-nt) KEY
ADJECTIVE:
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
gen�er�al�ly (jnr--l) KEY
ADVERB:
1. Popularly; widely: generally known.
2. a. As a rule; usually: The child generally has little to say.
b.For the most part: a generally boring speech.
3. Without reference to particular instances or details; not specifically: generally speaking.
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Then the answer is Yes. Of course some people can do this. There are single income TEFL earners in EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
I support a spouse and 3 kids and we spend 2-3 months abroad every year. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your reply Sour Grape. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Way, way off course.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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-3E- wrote: |
The question was " Generally speaking can a person generate enough money teaching in Japan to support a spouse?"
Below I have left a definition of ignorant, and generally ( which uses the example of generally speaking) for those who are a little bit rusty on the meaning of particular words.
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Cool: either you're another troll, in which case well done and keep up the good work or something, or you're serious and really are IRL just as you seem to be on here, in which case I would honestly suggest not going to Japan because you're wound up far too tight to deal with the place. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Gordon wrote: |
Then the answer is Yes. Of course some people can do this. There are single income TEFL earners in EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
I support a spouse and 3 kids and we spend 2-3 months abroad every year. |
Thanks for your reply Gordon. I'll do some research and make myself informed instead of ignorant now. Appreciate it. |
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