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Chester
Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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charlatans, cheats, rogues, swindlers, scoundrels, scamps, reprobates, scallawags and dishonest. That sort of broad generalizing statement in itself makes you a charlatan of the utmost despicable nature.
wow.
yes, i guess thats about it. well put. but i aint a charlatain, though it sounds sexy.
but if you want to start an esl business, GREAT!!
prove me wrong.
start your own business.
then report back on this forum.
i have the experience.
as have others.
go for it brother.
as for the comments from gonzo.
sorry folks but, he is right.
Ross McIlroy is a classic example. God bless him, he is a great man, but fell in to the trap of it all.
Mr Ross.. take care dude. If u read this forum please send me a message.
actually thanks for the positive inputs for this thread.
more please for those who want it. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Though it sounds so good to say Chester the Charlatan... haha....
I only said you were a charlatan because it fit the definition* (see below)
So you are telling me you started an ESL buisness and were cheated Chester? ( You said you had the experience )
I'm sorry you ran into the wrong people if so.
There is always a risk when starting a buisness of getting cheated or the buisness going belly up. Whether it be in Indonesia or anywhere else, you have to choose your associates and buisness partners wisely.
The thing about experience... Chester... Your experience is your experience and that is all it is... So your experience isn't necessarily relevant to anyone else. Perhaps the experience the next man has is the experience to make what you couldn't imagine working work. In that case, you were lacking the experience needed be successful in doing what the other man could. If people didn't strive for their dreams because of other people's bad experience or lack of and negative attitude, we would still be in the stone age.
*char�la�tan (sh�rl-tn)
NOUN:
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud. |
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xsbir
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 81 Location: The Big Durian
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Chester wrote: |
Ross McIlroy is a classic example. God bless him, he is a great man, but fell in to the trap of it all.
Mr Ross.. take care dude. If u read this forum please send me a message.
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First Rex and Jardine, and now Ross...if we keep up this list of "anti-role models" soon my name will be on it. Haven't seen Ross in a couple of years although I've been in Jakarta the whole time and go where he would go...I hope he's okay.
How about considering that some people manage to achieve far more here in Indonesia than they probably would have been able to anywhere else, like Big Joe for example? Other people, former English teachers, have gotten good jobs just for having been here for a long time and know the language. Other than getting lucky like that becoming a DOS is about as good as we can get. |
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drgonzo
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Come on xsbir.... Big Joe would have made a great welder or concrete finisher... he just would have got laid less often, that's all.... |
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Chester
Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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3-e.
well said.
prove me wrong, please.
inspire others. |
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ezekiel
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Despite countering each other continuously most of what you fellas say makes sense�
drgonzo � (sorry for calling you a Yankee ) I wasn't saying that your categories don't exist, especially the party freaks and sexual delinquents category..Of course I know bules like that in Medan too..I'm just saying I want no part of it anymore and that there must be thousands of people in an additional social group who consider Indonesia their home, not just a way to kill a few years and/or braincells. I started that way when I was here the first time..and THEN found a person worth staying (and behaving) for!
But that�s just me�by the way good on you and your company for the contributions matching scheme..maybe I�ll suggest that to our lot!
I also never said to anyone it was easy, just said we were doing well..read my post on Life after EF (Medan, Pekanbaru)..that was probably the darkest time for my wife and I and we got through that..not divorced yet sidjameson
Education in Indonesia for my dual-nationality kids? Never a more pertinent question for my wife and I. Luckily, I still have more than a year to make a decision for my daughter..I�m lucky in that our yayasan own a lovely TK and good curriculum school, too, and I do, as someone correctly guessed, have the option to send my kids there.
sidjameson..it was a good post and good advice drawn, obviously, from experience and observation.
It�s true, I �may� all of those things, or indeed, �may not� any of them.
I �may� decide I�m a bencong or spontaneously combust but those are improbable, I hope.
I would NEVER advise anyone to try to risk starting a family here without sound financial backup back home (and here). I'm of the belief that �as one door closes jam your foot in it!� - always leave contingencies, don't burn bridges too easily and never believe it will be peachy or that you will become a �millyar-air� from TESL. I�m safe in the knowledge that I own a good property in the South of England with my bros, some money stashed there too, my wife has a business here (and I want to start another) and we (she) bought land here�but again, that�s just us!
Finally, for those who�ve been here a while, don�t ever forget that, if it gets hairy here, there are other, better paying teaching jobs in, well, most other countries in the world! salam
P.S. The Charlatans were a great band! |
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xsbir
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 81 Location: The Big Durian
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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drgonzo wrote: |
Come on xsbir.... Big Joe would have made a great welder or concrete finisher... he just would have got laid less often, that's all.... |
I'm not so sure....those jobs I know very well require some intelligence, skill and training. The result of your work is set forever. You can't bs your way past the first day. Can the same be said of English teaching? Not, I say. |
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-3E-
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Where ever I want to be
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Chester wrote: |
3-e.
well said.
prove me wrong, please.
inspire others. |
I'd love to prove you wrong. If I do happen to follow that path of making an esl school in Indonesia, I will surely do just that.
Now I wasn't saying your experience is worthless, and I hope no one else assumed that either. I just wanted to clarify that incase anyone misinterpreted that. |
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