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You drive like a Mexican..
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tagastelum



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Delegaci�n Cuauht�moc | M�XICO DF

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sick.

How else can I explain the perverse pride that I take in knowing that I live in the city with the worst drivers in all of Mexico?

Monterrey.

Always careful to avoid bruising the sensitive ego of the regiomontano, I try never to make blanket pronouncements without proof. Therefore, here are the facts to back up my assertion. The following are translated excerpts from the article "Choques coronan a regios" which appeared in the December 4, 2005 edition of El Norte. (I saved the article because I was so aghast.)

"The frequency of accidents in Nuevo Le�n is the highest in the nation, surpassing even the Federal District, which has 2.7 times as many cars."

"In 2003, at second place is Jalisco, while Chihuahua was in third, Tamaulipas in fourth and Coahuila in fifth."

"Regiomontanos also hold the national crown [for accidents], according to INEGI, with 159,068 collisions in the Monterrey metropolitan area in 2003, surpassing the 96,351 in all of the state of Jalisco, the jurisdiction with the next highest figure."

"Daniel Pe�a Garc�a, president of the Mexican Association of Insurance and Guarantees stated that one of the factors contributing to Nuevo Le�n's leading position in road mishaps is because it has experienced excessive growth in its vehicular load.

'It's also owed to terrible pavement,' he added.

The poorly developed driving culture and lack of courtesy are also factors, according to Pe�a."

As you can see, other northern states also fare poorly, along with Jalisco. (What's up with those tapat�os?) So not only does central and southern Mexico have far better food than the north, they also have better drivers!

Notice how the insurance guy mentioned terrible pavement? It's absolutely true. Due to corruption, roads in Monterrey are paved with the poorest quality asphalt imaginable. A simple turn at 10 kph results in squeaking tires, like Starsky & Hutch in hot pursuit. And when it rains, the roads are as slippery as if an ice storm had hit. Crazy scary, yet the drivers tend not to slow down.

The best diagnosis I've heard came from a native regio: "Nuevo Le�n is a mostly rural state. We're country people at heart. And we drive cars like we ride horses."
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sarliz



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 198
Location: Jalisco

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I might walk like a gringa. I've had the pedestrian right-of-way ingrained into my subconciousness for so long that I think I might be constantly putting myself in peril here. If I'm walking along a street that has a green light, I get to cross the side street before the cars can turn, right? At least strictly in theory? The cars here (especially the taxis) barely tap the break before hurtling around the corner, and tend to get really pissy-looking if I'm in front of them. Should I be waging this one-woman war? And how do you yell "I have the right-of-way! Please don't hit me!" in spanish?
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cangringo



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 327
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second tag on the road conditions here, we had a pothole outside our front door for months when we first got here (I'm sure this contributed to the mosquito population because of course all the neighborhood women wash their front ...uh ...driveway thingys and the water all pooled in it. They fixed it...and about two weeks later we had a brand new one. Yippeee

As for the driving, I let hubby drive - I just couldn't take it and he's gotten very good at quitate...pendejo...etc. So I guess he drives like a Mexican now. Very Happy Or maybe he always has and that's why there are finger marks in the holy s-h-i-t handles. Shocked
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corporatehuman



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goddamn I love driving here. Anyone else feel like they finally fit in, with the driving, in Mexico? Back in the states I was characterized as aggressive and dangerous, and yet here, I find myself considered a bit more on the cautious side.

I was talking to one friend about the traffic triangle, and he was talking to me about how to judge how close the car is coming at you by its lights, or something, this was as he pulled into the oncoming lane to pass someone. The triangle I am referring to is when a car is in front of you, and of course you switch in to the oncoming lane to pass it, while another car comes straight towards you. Its the most common, beautiful, geometric shape Ive seen in Mexico.

Of course yesterday I just read LA ROJA, which is the local show pictures of dead people with intestines coming out special section of the magazine, and I know that the triangle, here in Chiapas, is OFTEn broken. I still can't imagine, anyone have the statistics of fatal car crashes in Mexico? Seems like four people die here everyday from being in crashes or hit while walking in the highway.

I now actually like speed bumps too, I feel like they're part of the challenge, the adventure, and the people on the sides of the road, everywhere, the bustle, the speed, the triangle!

C
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danielita



Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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Location: SLP

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the speed bumps here! It's the only way I get to pass slow moving trucks! When I first drove down here, I HATED the topes. They drove me crazy! Now, I see them as an opportunity, rather than a hindrance.
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, I got my first parking ticket today (I don't think it was an illegal space actually!). 5 days minimum salary (DF) less 50% for paying in 30 days: about $125. As the registry of vehicles is useless in Mexico, is it worth paying? I was told that the fine gets attached to your reg. number, so that when you go next time to get the tenencia, you will have to pay, and it will be $250 by then.
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cangringo



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
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Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to say that I have never seen so many neck braces...people all over the place in neck braces...
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil K. wrote:
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I was told that the fine gets attached to your reg. number, so that when you go next time to get the tenencia, you will have to pay, and it will be $250 by then.


It doesn't work that way here. The traffic cop rips the placas right off the vehicle and until you go pay the fine, you don't get them back. If you are driving around without plates, you will be pulled over and fined again. This time they will take away your driver's license. So then you get to collect both plates and DL and pay appropriate fines.
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sickbag



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
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Location: Blighty

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangringo wrote:
I forgot to say that I have never seen so many neck braces...people all over the place in neck braces...


Ooh. That's my favourite. My girlfriend and I amuse ourselves by playing spot-the-neckbrace. We see at least one a day.

The little blue facemasks that people use to help clear up their colds. Or is that just a Puebla thing?
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cangringo



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the blue facemasks...

but ya if we go anywhere, we see at least one neckbrace a day too

we also try to spot kids seats in cars, that's a tough one - I think I've seen two since we got here and they were not put in correctly

does driving like a mexican also imply that you like to get a small car and fill it with 10 or more people...??
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El Gallo



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexicans and Asians have a one up on civility with the rest of the world when they wear the facemasks. When they have a cold, this alleviates the spread of the virus though coughing and sneezing.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickbag wrote:
cangringo wrote:
I forgot to say that I have never seen so many neck braces...people all over the place in neck braces...


Ooh. That's my favourite. My girlfriend and I amuse ourselves by playing spot-the-neckbrace. We see at least one a day.

The little blue facemasks that people use to help clear up their colds. Or is that just a Puebla thing?


Hehe! I know one of the people at a place I teach as Neck Brace Lady. Not the most careful driver. They have a neck brace waiting for her behind reception, so the joke goes...
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cangringo



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mexicans and Asians have a one up on civility with the rest of the world when they wear the facemasks. When they have a cold, this alleviates the spread of the virus though coughing and sneezing.


Not here they don't. At least I haven't seen any and people just go around coughing and sneezing on everything. Ick - we have had a couple of colds already.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2583
Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Gallo wrote:
Mexicans and Asians have a one up on civility with the rest of the world when they wear the facemasks. When they have a cold, this alleviates the spread of the virus though coughing and sneezing.


In the US, we know that viruses are much more likely to be spread by contact with surfaces than through the air.
It goes like this you instictively cover your nose with your hand when you sneeze, because you were taught that as a child. Then you reach for the door knob with that hand as you leave the building. I come a minute later and open the door to go outside. I feel my eye itching--because of the cold dry air outside in winter time--so I rumb my eye with the hand I touched the door knob which you had recently touched with your germy hand and BAM I'm infected with your virus.
Whether or not I get sick depends on the state of my immune system at the time and what other viruses are cruising around in my body at that time.
Viruses can live for 5 to 10 minutes on cold metal surfaces and much much longer on warm ones. They can not fly around in the air, and any airborn ones soon settle on the groud or other surfaces, hoping to be picked up by a host before dying.

That is why doctors do not recommend that we walk around face masks, but DO recommend that we wash our hands frequently and avoid rubbing our eyes, mouth, or nose.
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