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007
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I lived in Hong Kong for many years.
The Chinese have this expression: If its back points to the sky you can eat it.
Just outside Canton there used to be a speciality cat restaurant. Diners would choose the cat they liked the look of from a cage of live specimens. The next time you saw it they were serving it up with ginger and spring onions.
In fact, it's not unknown for them to eat any living creature. Their culture is unaffected by the Bible, the Quran or the Talmud so they don't see why one can eat certain animals but not others. |
I think Animal Societies all over the world must be angry, and sad about what is happening to the lovely and peaceful cats in China!
Cats should NOT be on any anyone�s menu.
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| Their culture is unaffected by the Bible, the Quran or the Talmud so they don't see why one can eat certain animals but not others. |
A �culture� whose people eat cats and dogs is not a proper �culture�, it is a Chinese �kulture�! (yes, I mean 'k' not 'c'  ) |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Cats should NOT be on any anyone�s menu.
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Says who?
Is there any inherent reason why cats should be sacrosanct while goats, cows and chickens are fair game? |
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007
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Cleopatra wrote: |
Is there any inherent reason why cats should be sacrosanct while goats, cows and chickens are fair game? |
I think the above argument is in accordance with Karma philosophy and some vegetarians, which states:
�If all humans can survive perfectly well and consume much healthier food without the need to kill animals, why do laws throughout the world support hunting and why do most people support cruelty toward and slaughter of animals, and the worthless destructive habit of eating meat?�
I do not think eating cows or chicken against cats is a game!
I think there are some cultural/religion/personal preferences on why people eat goats and not cats:
1. Cats and humans share similar X and Y chromosomes
2. Humans feel more comfortable with cats, that�s why they take them as companions/friends in their house (since old times).
3. cats eats meat, wheares goats and chicken do not eat meat.
There are other religious/culture reasons, which also have an effect on why some people/culture eat (do not eat) meat, or any specific animals!
This questions about why people eat goats and not cats, is like asking about which is first, the egg or the chicken!
"A Cat has 07 lives and, if you eat it, you will be punished 07 times" |
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Queen of Sheba
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While I do understand the context of the question, if it�s ethical to eat one animal, why not another, it seems we should draw the line somewhere. Whets to say cannibalism is wrong on those terms, after all aren�t we animals of sorts too? We can�t just consume everything can we? If eating flesh isn�t good for us, and should be reduced in most diets according to recent studies we have all read, why should people various kinds of it? Isn�t one or two kinds enough?
Besides the Chinese are running majestic animals into extinction, such as the tiger because of this delicacy, as well as traditional medicine, fixation. I think the Chinese need to be put into line here, and if Chairman Mao was around he would kick them in the rear end over all this continued nonsense.
Tiger gut and blood soup anyone?
On a related note, is there such a thing as a chocolatarian? I think I know a few. |
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007
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Queen of Sheba wrote: |
| Whets to say cannibalism is wrong on those terms, after all aren�t we animals of sorts too? We can�t just consume everything can we? |
Of course, Q o. Sheba, they say that you are what you eat! |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| if Chairman Mao was around he would kick them in the rear end over all this continued nonsense. |
That's certainly true.
Man-made famines of epic proportions were a Mao specialty. |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| 007 wrote: |
I think there are some cultural/religion/personal preferences on why people eat goats and not cats:
1. Cats and humans share similar X and Y chromosomes
2. Humans feel more comfortable with cats, that�s why they take them as companions/friends in their house (since old times).
3. cats eats meat, wheares goats and chicken do not eat meat.
There are other religious/culture reasons, which also have an effect on why some people/culture eat (do not eat) meat, or any specific animals! |
And some cultures don't eat ruminants (herbivores that regurgitate and rechew their food.)
Viewed from an ethical point of view, if we're going to eat (ie, kill) animals it should be based on their level of intelligence, personality and - at the lower end - sentience. Therefore, chicken and fish are OK to eat, cats are not. Apes (bush meat in Africa) are a definite no no.
They can feed me to a pride of lions after I go. I think that'd be 'cool.' |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| Van Norden wrote: |
They can feed me to a pride of lions after I go. I think that'd be 'cool.' |
Are you '300 Clubbers' meaty enough to stir a lion's appetite? |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| We do eat Sheikh, we just don't pay for it ourselves. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| We do eat Sheikh, we just don't pay for it ourselves. |
Internet Confession Serial Murderer says "I'm not a cannibal; I just forgot the comma".
Saying his last words to the crowd at Chop Square today, US citizen Van Norden, ringleader of the notorious gourmet cannibal circle, the 300 Club, who had confessed on an online EFL forum that he saved on living expenses by abducting and eating leading members of Saudi society, denied all charges and claimed it all came about because he didn't think punctuation was important.
The Shariah court had dismissed as preposterous the suggestion that a professional highly qualified English teacher could make such an elementary error. |
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007
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| The Shariah court had dismissed as preposterous the suggestion that a professional highly qualified English teacher could make such an elementary error.[/i] |
The Islamic Court of appeal, after careful analysis and deliberation, has decided that, the decision of Sharia court is invalid, because of lack of evidence and, also Van is not a Muslim and is ignorant, so he cannot testify in the court, and Sharia does not punish ignorant people.
The final decision of this court, is that, Van is innocent and cannot be punished for an action which he did not commit, and he is free to go to his compound and live his life!
The decision of the court of appeal is final and non reversible, and the session is closed!!
Judge: King Cobra 007. |
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dmb
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| Van is innocent and cannot be punished for an action which he did not commit, |
but Van lives in KSA, so is being punished. Van, what did you do in a previous life?  |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Is there no way, Van, you could put 007 on your menu ... |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Van Narcissism wrote: |
| We do eat Sheikh, we just don't pay for it ourselves. |
Sounds fine to me. No need for a punctuation-checker here.
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| US citizen Van Norden . . . he didn't think punctuation was important . . . professional . . . highly qualified . . . English teacher |
Wrong on all 5 counts. You need a fact-checker Jones!
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| but Van lives in KSA, so is being punished. Van, what did you do in a previous life? |
I've done my sentence / but committed no crime |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds fine to me. No need for a punctuation-checker here. |
Perhaps it would be better if we declined any lunch invitations you might send our way then. |
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