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rawfooddan1234
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: organic fruits and vegatables in Japan |
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Hello,
I don't know if this has been covered before... about organic fruit and vegatables in Japan.
Here in korea its really easy to get reasonably priced organic vegatables and greens but fruits are another story. they're way too expensive here. I'm like the one person in korea wishing for a FTA. (fruit trade agreement)
I was wondering if anyone could give me an idea about organic produce availability in Japan and specifically like salad greens and fruits. are they crazy expensive?
Is living on largely organic fruit and vegatables prohibitively expensive in japan and/or not possible?
I read somewhere that organic food is catching on in japan, could anyone elaborate on the organic food situation?
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jademonkey
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 180
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: Re: organic fruits and vegatables in Japan |
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rawfooddan1234 wrote: |
Hello,
I don't know if this has been covered before... about organic fruit and vegatables in Japan. |
All fruit and vegetables are by the very fact that they are fruit and vegetables, organic. A plastic banana is not organic, nor is a wax apple. So, yes, you can get "organic" fruit and veg in Japan. You can also meet "organic" people and pet their "organic" dogs. If you're very lucky, you'll even live in an "inorganic" concrete apartment with "organic" tatami flooring.
But, yeah, I'm being a wiseass...specially grown chemical free food is very pricy here and frankly, if you do the research, so-called organic food is hideously overpriced everywhere, moreso in Japan. |
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6810

Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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search, search search...
use the hyperlink. This has been covered a million times. |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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buying "non-organic" fruit and vegetables here drives my food bill up the wall...I cant imagine the cost of organic. We used to buy it in America but we cant now...and besides here everything tastes good and fresh..in America you could only guarantee that Organic tasted good (not always the same with non-organic)....so that is why we would buy Organic..but it all taste good here. The strawberries taste like they were just picked and the apples are ALWAYS crisp....yum... |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Organic vegetables in season tend to be reasonably priced (for Japan) whereas non-organic fruit is expensive here even in season (apart from bananas) and organic can be double or triple the price on top of that.
Nothing to do with free trade agreements or lack thereof, even prices for locally grown fruit like apples and strawberries are quite high for some reason. An ordinary apple is usually around $1- $1.50 for example.
A lot of the vegetables you might not be familiar with- gobo, goya, matsuna etc. but if you are a raw foodist I imagine you'd like to try them.
My local supermarket (part of a big chain) has quite a large selection of organic vegetables, also pasta and rice etc. Organic is definitely catching on here, but it's not cheap. |
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6810

Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Apsara wrote: |
Organic vegetables in season tend to be reasonably priced (for Japan) whereas non-organic fruit is expensive here even in season (apart from bananas) and organic can be double or triple the price on top of that. |
Depends where you shop. Plenty of "mom and pop" places sell organic. Just look for the kanji 有機。 There are various organisations which certify organic food etc. But, if you buy locally, chances are you can buy organic or pesticide free - you just have to ask around. Try not going to the supermarket.
Apsara wrote: |
Nothing to do with free trade agreements or lack thereof, even prices for locally grown fruit like apples and strawberries are quite high for some reason. An ordinary apple is usually around $1- $1.50 for example. |
Debatable (FTAs). Generally it is to do with an outlook on quality. Japanese produced fruit is quite often, really good. The prices are inflated, but just try some of the really expensive stuff from time to time. You'll see why there's a price hike.
Apsara wrote: |
A lot of the vegetables you might not be familiar with- gobo, goya, matsuna etc. but if you are a raw foodist I imagine you'd like to try them.
My local supermarket (part of a big chain) has quite a large selection of organic vegetables, also pasta and rice etc. Organic is definitely catching on here, but it's not cheap. |
a. I agree, try the local veges, including the millions of varieties of leafy greens, lettuces, cucumber variations, various imo (tubers) etc. This stuff is dirt cheap. If you live slightly less urban, Summer is wonderful, filled with tomatoes of all varieties, eggplants and summer herbs - not like a brief seasonal Italy.
b. Forget about buying the certified organic produce unless you have to eat it for some real health reason. That stuff is extortion.
Again, prices vary, but it all depends on where you shop. Speaking of which, don't forget the internet. Bundle up enough produce and they throw in free shipping etc. You should see my "Indian" kitchen! |
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Quibby84

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 643 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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The organic pasta is three times the cost of normal... |
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rawfooddan1234
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: thanks for the info |
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I think Taiwan's East coast might be the best place to be for clean air and cheap high quality locally grown organic produce. I was just there a few weeks ago and they've got a thriving organic program with the local farmers. And the prices are really cheap, especially by korean or japan standards. |
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J.
Joined: 03 May 2003 Posts: 327
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: Indian kitchen? |
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Hi 6810, nice to see you posting on food again. I have one question -- what do you mean by Indian produce; have you found a place to get fresh herbs, fruits or vegs or are you referring to the beans, spices, rice etc. you can get online from the Indian suppliers? If you have a supplier for fresh stuff I'd like to hear it.
About the organic fruits and vegs question; I have no idea what's available in the big cities but in the countryside generally you won't find much in the supermarkets. However, there are national and local delivery services that you can sign up (on the Internet) with and they send you a box of whatever's in season each week or so. Tend to be a bit pricey but very delicious, if on the scanty side in quantity. Then, you could find one of the Anew chain of organic stores that get in the produce every week, as well as have rice and beans and soy milk, sugar, sea salt and the like on hand all the time.
The selection is limited and you need to find out what day the produce comes in and go there for the best selection. Vegetables are pricey but you can afford them, especially if all your budget isn't going on meat or processed foods, which are far pricier for what you get. If you eat organic food, you know that the flavour is good and things can stretch further in recipes because of that intense flavour.
If you want to take a look at my website, in the Resources section,you can see a range of the store links (not everything available but a starting point) and the prices. Not everything is organic of course, but a few sites are. Stores like Tengu and Warabemura will send the things you order to your door and you can pay at the nearest post office, convenience store, or even at your door. Not much fresh produce, but organic canned or dried is available.
http://www.vegetablejapan.com
(I know a lot of these things have been covered before, but just trying to outline some alternatives for the OP here.)
Local food in Japan, available at your local Sunday/farmer's market is the cheapest and probably healthiest option outside organic. Food in Japan tends to be heavily sprayed/chemically treated, though, far more than in North America, I hear. Strawberries may be good, but beware the chemicals. I eat them "sometimes". |
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