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guruengerish



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: NEW - Upper age limit for KITAS Reply with quote

Does anyone know how factual it is, that KIMS/KITAS will not be issued to anyone over 55? Is it a fact or just more hot air from Kantor Imigrasi? Rolling Eyes
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Chester



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend working in Cirebon.
irish and over 55 (i think).
just got another KITAS.

if u r interested i can put u in touch to clarify.

regardless of "reformasi" I dont think Indonesia wants foreigners there at all.

good idea if corruption and pseudo-dictatorship can endure.

wasn't indonesia used for the set of "skull Island" in the King Kong movie.
and the Indonesian parliament played the parts of the natives?

man that was one "funky monkey"
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papillon



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: full marks Reply with quote

wasn't indonesia used for the set of "skull Island" in the King Kong movie.
and the Indonesian parliament played the parts of the natives?


Chester, that is by far the funniest comment posted on this site ever. Thank Allah you gave up the beat poetry for political satire.
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gugelhupf



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

60 is the upper age limit for a work visa, not sure there is a limit for the KITAS itself. However, as is the way with many of these things, I suspect a few crisp 100 dollar bills would change outcomes considerably.
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sidjameson



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Why Jakarta? Reply with quote

For those who live there. Why do you like Jakarta more than other places? Many seem to hate it, so what are it's advantages?
If it is just one big shopping mall as others have said, well it must have something else going for it otherwise you would all be in Bogor, Bandung Surabaya et el.
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guruengerish



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: teachers' ages Reply with quote

I've now been told that EF will not employ persons over the age of retirement.

Also, Kantor Immigrasi will not issue an authorising telex if a teacher is over the age of 60.
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TEAM_PAPUA



Joined: 24 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: * Reply with quote

You should be ok working in China: if I were 'above the retirement age' I think I'd choose to be in China rather than Indonesia. I definitely consider it as a better environment and healthier/safer place to be for someone of that age. Just my opinion, but based on that I'll no doubt follow my own advice when the time is right.
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Michael_Indonesia



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly, I've just seen this rule take effect. An Aussie guy at my school turns 60 this year, and the gov't has refused to grant him a new work visa for the new school year. I asked our HRD about this and was told that they make exceptions if the foreigner is married to an Indonesian, but since he's single....

Poor guy; now, he's gotta go back to Oz with no job, home, or family, as he's been living here for so long. Gives us something to think about the longer we plan on staying here.
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tanyakenapa



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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Location: Batavia

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Why Jakarta? Reply with quote

sidjameson wrote:
For those who live there. Why do you like Jakarta more than other places? Many seem to hate it, so what are it's advantages?
If it is just one big shopping mall as others have said, well it must have something else going for it otherwise you would all be in Bogor, Bandung Surabaya et el.


Why do I live here and not Bogor, Surabaya or Bali? Well to be honest because all my friends are here!!! I might be a little different to the other people on here, because I went to J.I.S and grew up here during my teenage years... and have always wanted to move back and live in Jakarta again the very first chance I had. All my friends are here as well that I have had from childhood. So for me moving back to Indonesia from Australia, makes me feel at home. Very Happy

I for one dont live in shopping malls, and only visit it if I need to do my grocery shopping. Because where I live in Jakarta there is no local supermarket like a Circle K or a Hero's thats in its own buidling...so thats the only reason I have to venture into a mall.

Another thing is that I do not hang out with the Expat crowd here in my spare time and probably never will. So I find the life more interesting hehehhe...

Oh and living in Bali.. no thanks... its like I'm back in Australia... he he he ...

Advantages of Jakarta, hmmm to be honest its difficult to answer, and I'd probably be laughed at etc for other reasons I'd give, so I wont bother.. but at least maybe I can give one example.

If your living in a smaller city, just maybe the medical there isnt so reliable... yes yes I know people can fly to Singapore if they are desparate, but I'd say Jakarta has better medical services than anywhere else in Indonesia, even tho their standards of course arent as good as Singapore Smile

Anyway thats what I think....
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phis



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anyone like to post the 'law' that applies to this?

I have been 'reliably' informed that no such law exists!

However, it is possible that schools are using this excuse to get rid of people they no longer wish to employ. Or government officials are using this as a means of getting some sort of back-hander.

This rumour has been circulating for the past couple of years, but nobody has posted any 'real' facts to support or deny the rumour.
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malu



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

26-60 age limit is correct for a work visa as a native speaker English teacher. There is no age limit on a KITAS per se.

I know two people personally who are over 60 but still managed to get a work visa - but these guys are certificated school teachers AND the school paid generous 'homage' to the nice Imigrasi chief. It can be done but (in Jakarta and Tangerang districts, at any rate) it is expensive.
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wannaBguru



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know that for non teachers there is no upper age limit.

several of my dos friends have told me that for teachers the upper limit is 55. my school had to let go several teachers last year, citing the upper age limit as the reason.

who knows, maybe they just wanted to get rid of them. or maybe it is possible to pay extra "fees" and they just didnt want to.

dont know the real answer
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drbruce



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm turning 58 next month and have just renewed my contract for another year at an international school. I have friends in Java who are 60 and just resigned at an international school for another year. So, if there is a rule about age, it is obviously as flexible as anything else in Indonesia.
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The Irwinator



Joined: 09 May 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't aware that there was a lower age limit of 26. I'm 20 years old and I've been looking forward to teaching in Indonesia later this year. Is this limit already in effect?
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The Irwinator



Joined: 09 May 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I'm turning 21 in December.

I recognize that I might not officially get a KITAS until a few months after I arrive in Indonesia, but I'm wondering if I'll have to fly to out of the country every three months, repeatedly, throughout my whole 12-month stay.

Can anyone advise me or, possibly, put up a link to a reputable source that gives that age limit? I've read the requirements for a work visa on the embassy website before, and I haven't yet seen a lower limit specified. Clearly, there must be some minimum, so I'm not that skeptical that this limit of 26 is true, but I would like some certainty. Thank you.
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