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AJB
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:58 am Post subject: Chances of finding a job without a degree? |
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Hi there.
Can anyone help me out here...?
My partner and I want to do a year teaching English...it's sweet as for me, I've done a year in Korea. My partner on the other hand is degree less though he does have a TESOL.
So what are the chances of him finding employment in Japan? I know NOVA takes on part timers like this but from all accounts NOVA sucks...are there any other schools/institutes that do this or similar? We he be able to just cold call and land something off the bat? Would he find sufficient privates? Are there other countries that be a better option?
Any suggestions would be wholly apreciated.
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| You need a degree to get a work visa in Japan. However, depending on your age and nationality, you may qualify for a working holiday visa. |
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ryuro
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:23 am Post subject: |
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AJB,
Need a bit more info to help ya out here.
As Gordon mentioned, what are your ages and nationalities??? Will you be eligible for WHV's??? As Gordon mentioned without a degree a regular work visa is impossible.
Are you cool with teaching primarily children??? I know you said you have a year in Korea, but what about your partner- any experience and what kind??? What kind of TESOL is it??? Did it include any practical teaching experience or is it just a 'theoretical' degree???
Give us a bit more and we can probably help ya.
Cheers,
ryuro
ps. just a note on the TESOL- although others may disagree with me, I don't think they're particularly beneficial over here. |
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J-Pop
Joined: 07 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:35 am Post subject: "a" TESOL? |
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| ryuro wrote: |
. . . What kind of TESOL is it??? Did it include any practical teaching experience or is it just a 'theoretical' degree??? . . .
Give us a bit more and we can probably help ya. . . .
ps. just a note on the TESOL- although others may disagree with me, I don't think they're particularly beneficial over here. |
OK, I'll bite. What is a TESOL? Is this something similar to a diploma, or a certificate. Or, is it actually a degree, BA or BS (as in a degree from a uni)?
I'm a bit confused (not necessarily an unusual state of affairs for me, nowadays it seems!  ). But, the first poster, AJB, said his partner does not have a degree, but does have a TESOL?
I'm recalling the discussion in another thread about some of the differences between Canadian & American & British systems of schooling & educational credentials.
Assuming this is something unique to Canada (maybe, Britain, too?) I guess there are different types of TESOLs? Interesting. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:30 am Post subject: Re: "a" TESOL? |
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| J-Pop wrote: |
OK, I'll bite. What is a TESOL? Is this something similar to a diploma, or a certificate. Or, is it actually a degree, BA or BS (as in a degree from a uni)?
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Could mean anything. By itself ("Has a tesol") is meaningless as TESOL simply means Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages.
As far as qualifications go, there are undergraduate certificates out there, graduate certificates, mickey mouse certificates. And that's before you even wade into the sad, sad field that is actual entire degrees in the subject.
They can all be qualifications in TESOL (or any other number of acronyms), but just saying "a tesol" doesn't really mean anything.
Play the language game, kiddies! :) |
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BenJ
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| sad sad field? You dont think it's a field worthy of deeper study? |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a graduate degree in the subject and it certainly hasnt done me any harm professionally or income wise. I guess it all depends on what you want to gain out of the whole teaching experience and whether a TESOL teaching career actually appeals to you deep down. |
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shmooj
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| Nova sucks... but it doesn't suck by all accounts. IOW, they might actually hire someone without a degree. But I can't see how they would pass this by immigration who are pretty hot on people having degrees. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Nova hires people on a working holiday. Many people on a working holiday visa don't have degrees. The most important thing is to have a visa that lets you work. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| canuck wrote: |
| Nova hires people on a working holiday. Many people on a working holiday visa don't have degrees. The most important thing is to have a visa that lets you work. |
A working holiday is only available to non-Americans and only lets you work part time at any one place. He will not be able to get a full time job with just a working holiday visa.
Many people on WHV dont have a degrees because its not a requirement of the visa, as the purpose of the working holiday visa is travel, not just work, while allowing you to work part time to support your stay. It is not meant to replace a full-time working vis | |
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