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Stephen Jones
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| the decision of Sharia court is invalid, because of lack of evidence and, also Van is not a Muslim and is ignorant, so he cannot testify in the court, |
Being a non-Muslim is no barrier to testifying in Shariah Court. Indeed a Shariah court is the appropriate authority for marrying two non-Muslims in the Kingdom. |
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globalnomad2
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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With some flava beans and bottle of chianti. sphh sphhh sphhh sphh.
I agree with 007 for once...about cats. For the same reason I disagree with the Japanese predilection for whale meat. Whales, unlike cows, are magnificent, intelligent animals that are supposed to roam the seas freely, and we don't need their meat. Many humans, however, do need meat. I know I do; I cannot exist very well on vegetables alone. Cows and chickens will do fine if they're dispatched humanely.
My cat, on the other hand, is not on the menu. He is not only beautiful and smart, but he actually saved me $27 once by jumping up and pulling down the handle of a door behind which we had inadvertently locked our keys--opening the door for us. It normally cost us $27 (this was in Abu Dhabi) to break the door and fix it again. This earned him a cat visa to the US when we returned, and he now roams the hedges, grass and trees in the back yard in search of frogs and geckos to play with (but not to eat, as he prefers upscale cat food without poisonous Chinese chemical additives.)
Chickens and shrimp cannot jump up to door handles and open doors; neither will cows. Whales might if they had a giant underwater door to open.
Ergo--cats are not on the menu. If dogs would stop barking and biting and crapping all over the place, I might feel more sympathy for them in Korea.
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globalnomad2
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Stephen Jones: In Malaysia, however, being non-Muslim entitles you to NO rights in the Shariah court. The court is often used to tear asunder Malaysian families in which they suspect one member might technically be a Muslim. And the federal--ostensibly secular--authorities have no jurisdiction over the Islamic courts, which act independently and sometimes capriciously. |
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Van Norden
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| For the same reason I disagree with the Japanese predilection for whale meat. Whales, unlike cows, are magnificent, intelligent animals that are supposed to roam the seas freely |
CLIVE: I'd like to see every endangered species wiped off the fucking face of the Earth.
DEREK: Yeah.
CLIVE: People go, they're all moaning on, they say whales are more intelligent than human beings.
DEREK:Yeah.
CLIVE: Are they? Do you think whales and dolphins are more intelligent than human beings?
DEREK: Oh yeah.
CLIVE: Why?
DEREK: Says so.
CLIVE: Yeah, but they're not. Whales are fucking stupid. Can you mention one whale in the history of mankind that has had a record in the top ten? Can you? Can you mention one whale who's written the equivalent of, er, 'Othello', Shakespeare, 'Health & Efficiency'? They've produced nothing in the way of literature. All they've fucking produced is a load of other whales and all they eat is fucking plankton, and they call them intelligent. Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a lot of fucking plankton going in?
DEREK: Yeah, I can imagine that.
CLIVE: You'd like it, would you, just drifting around in the sea? And you can't-, they're such cunts they can't even breathe underwater. They have to keep coming up the whole fucking time and spouting. Then some cunt comes on telly and he says, "Oh, the whale is being wiped out by mankind, save the fucking whales." Well! During the war, did we notice a lot of whales w-, rallying round and saying, "Save England!" I didn't notice many down my part of the world.
DEREK:Oh, fucking-
CLIVE: I didn't see whales coming up with Union Jacks saying, "We'll fight the Boche". No, they were doing fucking all .....
DEREK: No, 'cause they .....
CLIVE: ..... swimming around the fucking sea sucking fucking plankton down!
http://www.phespirit.info/derekandclive/ |
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Taiwanlight Zone
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Danshui, Taiwan
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I thought, before you clarified, that you had a problem with asthma. Any asthmatic thinking of going to SA had better think about this. You regularly go from very hot outside to very cold airconditioned rooms and from my experience the Saudis like it icy. During my year in the magic kingdom my asthma worsened significantly. Be wary, be very wary. |
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Cleopatra
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| There's also the fact that the air in Riyadh is just as bone dry as you'd expect from a city built bang in the middle of the desert. Even people with normal respiratory systems need to use humidifiers to 'soften' the air, especially in the hotter months with AC on 24 hours a day. |
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Queen of Sheba
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| globalnomad2 wrote: |
| Stephen Jones: In Malaysia, however, being non-Muslim entitles you to NO rights in the Shariah court. The court is often used to tear asunder Malaysian families in which they suspect one member might technically be a Muslim. And the federal--ostensibly secular--authorities have no jurisdiction over the Islamic courts, which act independently and sometimes capriciously. |
Malaysia's court sysem has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia's. Different Muslim countries have different laws and interpretations and variations of Sharia law, which is very complicated and has its own scholars and studies. In general however, non-Muslims do have rights under Sharia law, indeed there is even a special court, but still under Sharia law, to deal with expats in KSA. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| indeed there is even a special court, but still under Sharia law, to deal with expats in KSA. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| In general however, non-Muslims do have rights under Sharia law, indeed there is even a special court, but still under Sharia law, to deal with expats in KSA. |
Non-Muslims, especially people of book (Christians and Jews), living in a Muslim country dominated by the Sharia law, are called Dhimmi (people of book), and their rights are protected by the Sharia law, with a conditions that they respect the contract (in this case, the terms of visa and work contract) of the hosting Islamic country, but are not allowed to practise missionary activities.
Non-Muslims private affairs and social problems can be solved under Sharia law in a case where a Muslim is associated with the affair. If the issue is only concerning non-Muslims, like marriage or other social events, it can be solved in their embassy if they wish or at any Sharia court but with some conditions, for example the Sharia court cannot punish a Non-Muslim for not fasting in Ramadhan, but if the issue is related to job dispute , administration or civic dispute, then the dispute is referred to the Sharia law in SA, and this is very clearly written in the Non-Muslims job contract. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| but if the issue is related to job dispute , administration or civic dispute, then the dispute is referred to the Sharia law in SA, and this is very clearly written in the Non-Muslims job contract. |
No labour case ends up before a Sharia court. Few of the other cases are likely to either. Is it too difficult to check facts before you write. |
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globalnomad2
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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His name is Bond. James Bond.
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globalnomad2
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Gee, thanks for the lecture. Having lived in 8 countries worldwide for 32 years outside my own country, including 3 Muslim countries for 13 years, and now you tell me that...different countries are different from each other? Thanks. I did not know that.
Malaysia was mentioned as aside. I think that's permissable. |
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Queen of Sheba
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Q of S:
Gee, thanks for the lecture. Having lived in 8 countries worldwide for 32 years outside my own country, including 3 Muslim countries for 13 years, and now you tell me that...different countries are different from each other? Thanks. I did not know that.
Malaysia was mentioned as aside. I think that's permissable. |
Golly globalcombat, you are welcome. I will stop explaining things as soon as you start making relevant comments. I think that's permissable. And guess what - your self proclaimed travel credentials and passport stamps take a back seat to mine. |
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globalnomad2
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| Do not!! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Now... this is why I chose to never teach kindergarten!! 
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