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"Leeroy's words of evil"
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jud



Joined: 25 May 2003
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here low level students will say "Good morning" until about 4 p.m. because in Italian there's Buon giorno and Buona sera, and it's acceptable to use Buon giorno in the early afternoon.

I had one student who constantly used "By the way" to mean "in any case." Drove me crazy.

We get a lot of "No_____, no party" here because of a Martini commercial with George Clooney (No martini, no party.)
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jud wrote:

We get a lot of "No_____, no party" here because of a Martini commercial with George Clooney (No martini, no party.)


That is so cute!
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone get the Mr. [first name] thing wher they are?

Got an email last night from a student which began "Dear Mr John,"

I even had one Filipino member of staff a few years back addess me as "Mr John" until I could stand it no more... Rolling Eyes
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
Anyone get the Mr. [first name] thing wher they are?

Got an email last night from a student which began "Dear Mr John,"

I even had one Filipino member of staff a few years back addess me as "Mr John" until I could stand it no more... Rolling Eyes


Where are you from Shmooj? In the southern part of the U.S. it it polite to say Mr. or Miss plus first name. All my students just call me "teacher". Even we teachers call each other "teacher". And I have two friends who refer to themselves as teacher. "The teacher is hungry. Where is the food?" (when we're out at a restaurant). I sometimes go out dancing or shopping with a friend who is also a teacher. It's so funny because when a students says, "Teacher", we both turn around.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am guilty of it! I hear it so often that I now use it. I tell my students 'you have to go and see Mr. Hammad' L2 learners influence on my L1? Crazy
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:34 am    Post subject: Mister John ! Reply with quote

"Mister" plus first name is almost universal in the Arab World. I am pleased to say that in our institution we insist on students saying Mister plus surname.

But they still say,"Teacherteacher !"
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jud



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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I deal with clients on the phone in Italian and I am always Mrs. Giudi to them.

Note the spelling. It's not because Italians don't use Mr./Ms. Surname, but because when I give my real surname Italians become unsettled (it's Beylorussian, but not THAT difficult to say.)

I love it when they call me Prof, though. I know it's not correct for us but it's usually used affectionately, like, Hi Prof, want a coffee Prof, can we get lunch for the Prof, etc.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it should be part of our job to teach our foreign charges how to address people in the West. Here in China, they are awfully under-informed.
I don't want minors to call me by my first name. Familiarity breeds... you know what I mean. I do think there should be a decent distance between them and me. And so, I insist on the proper Mr plus surname.
Problem is Chinese get confused over what is what because they line up their own names in the exact reverse order. While we in the West ordinarily learn to identify an East Asian's surname, the Chinese don't seem to get to grips with our surnames. CHeck your residence permit - and see in which order your names have been transliterated!
And, why do Chinese students keep asking me, "Do you want us to write our English name or our Chinese name on the essay?"
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shenyanggerry



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger said
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Chinese students keep asking me, "Do you want us to write our English name or our Chinese name on the essay?"
What do you answer. I always answered that the most important was their student number.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn wrote:
Where are you from Shmooj? In the southern part of the U.S. it it polite to say Mr. or Miss plus first name.

Is that so? I had no idea - never heard that before. Ironically, the same time that we had the Filipino who called me Mr. John, we also had someone from Arkansas who called me, politely I would hope, plain old John.

I'm from the UK. In the southern part of the U.K. it is polite to say guvnor.
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
Lynn wrote:
Where are you from Shmooj? In the southern part of the U.S. it it polite to say Mr. or Miss plus first name.

Is that so? I had no idea - never heard that before. Ironically, the same time that we had the Filipino who called me Mr. John, we also had someone from Arkansas who called me, politely I would hope, plain old John.

I'm from the UK. In the southern part of the U.K. it is polite to say guvnor.


Was he your colleague? If so, it's not neccesary for him to call you Mr. John. Children and young people call their elders Mr. plus first name.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, FYI, both he and the Filipino were my colleagues. Yeah, I was thinking that Mr + first name to equals is strange anywhere in the native English speaking world. Sounds like the southern USA tallies with this then.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know every teacher has a right to be called what they want to be called in their classroom, but one of my pet peeves is when a foreign teacher has the students us his first name. My first name is Chris, short for Christopher. So the FAO writes down Mr. Christ. Unlike the spainish, I don't feel comfortable being called Jesus or Christ. But the FAO tells the class monitor, the class monitor tells his classmates, and so it begins. ]

My youngest students would call me teacher, which makes sense because they say in Chinese "Laoshi ...teacher" and not Mr. or Mrs. But i expect a little more from my college students

Another pet peeve...foreign (and Chinese) teachers teaching bad english on purpose . So one semester i was using a book by a Naomi Woronov, called "Get It, Got It". Overall not a terrible book, but it loves to teach bad english (gotta, etc.). The the book says to the students, "Don't actually say this" Too late! Now they all use the badder english. Sounds cool, man!

CCTV9 ... China's official TV station...always uses so on, for instance in talking about silk weaving; "There are many famous stitches such as the cross stitch, the inverted stitch, the double hitch stitch, the loop stitch, the under and over stitch, the half stitch, the wavery (?) stitch, AND SO ON" Save me!

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