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AJAlex



Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:55 pm    Post subject: Newbie Reply with quote

I have already posted a quick enquiry on Newbie forum, but I thought I would add one here to see if anyone can help out.
I have completed a 4 week TESOL cert. course in Barcelona and would really like to work in Mexico. I have worked in a classroom for 1 year with primary age kids (as a classroom assistant) and am reasonably well travelled but, as yet, little experience in the EFL field. I am 32 and this would be a second career for me - I have a background in Hospitality so I guess if all else fails I may just go out to Mexico anyway and work in a luxurious resort!! I would ideally like to work with younger learners and I would really like to work somewhere warm and sunny, with a beach within walking distance, a tequilla bar close by, balmy nights and tropical views......(ahhh dream on..)
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would really like to work somewhere warm and sunny, with a beach within walking distance, a tequilla bar close by, balmy nights and tropical views......(ahhh dream on..)

- AJAlex


No, you wouldn't, because if you were working in a setting like that as an EFL teacher in Mexico, you'd have to be teaching all the time in order to afford to live there. You probably wouldn't have the time or the energy to walk to the beach or to the tequilla bar. I do know what you mean, though. It sounds great. I live a half-hour's drive from the beach and love spending time there. The last time I found the time, energy, and extra money to get to the beach was in August. However, I used to go more frequently a few years ago before the local economy changed.

With your background in Hospitality, if you're enterprising at all, you might be able to get something set up to give English lessons to hotel employees in a resort/tourist area. I know of people who have done it -- room, board, and a very small wage -- although the gigs usually turned out to be very short-term. Most employees need to know English pretty well before they can get employed at such places, and their enthusiasm to attend classes wanes quickly, since they must attend on their own time after working lots and lots of hours. If you're considering working in a luxurious resort, it would most likely have to be as an English instructor, however. You couldn't get a work visa for any other type of jobs in luxurious hotels/resorts, and with the competition for such jobs by locals, you'd probably be turned in to immigration in a minute if you were hired for a job that locals could do.
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AJAlex



Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:46 pm    Post subject: Booo Reply with quote

Bah spoilsport! Actually I know that my dream of sun, sand and sun will probably remain just that - still there is more likelihood of it becoming true in Mexico than there is here in Scotland (very very cold right now) but I was especially interested in your comments re teaching English to hosp. staff. Could use it to top up funds maybe and use up any remaining time that could be well spent on da beach...hmmm
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Wasting away in Maragritaville Reply with quote

AJAlex,

opportunities occasionally pop up, but then they are snatched up! I

f you are interested in staying in Mexico long term, you will be more likely to move into the type of situation that you are dreaming of. Mexicans work on connections so if you are willing to start working in one place opportuntities might open up to work in others with time. There are several universities in Mexico that teach tourism management--you might want to contact one of them. There are also vocational high schools with tourism curriculum, especially in coastal areas, but you could start off with just a couple of hours a week and need to live off of "other income"
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Sfletcher



Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick message for Melee...

What is the score like in Oaxaca at the moment? I'm an English guy, newly qualified with CELTA, and it's been my ambition for a long time to come and teach in Oaxaca. As an inexperienced teacher, am I deluding myself in thinking that I can get by on the work I find there.

Also, what about the paperwork - I hear much about getting certificates and such certified legally and translated into Spanish. But what is the situation in reality � especially as I have no plans at the moment for settling there longterm.

Your experience in these matters is greatly appreciated.

Steve
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interpreting your message to mean that you want to work in Oaxaca, because you want to live in Oaxaca and experience the place, not because you want to establish a fantastic teaching career or because you feel a need to help Oaxacans improve their English. If I'm wrong let me know because I'll have a different response in either of those cases.

I also assume that you are talking about Oaxaca City?
I live in the state of Oaxaca, not in Oaxaca City, and while, I usually visit often, I've been doing other things recently and haven't been since June!

There are lots of language schools that would be happy to have a native Speaker with a CELTA, even without expeience--some of the chains, like Berlitz or Harmon Hall, will put you through their in house training regardless. You'd have a great year or however long you think you'd like to stay and probably make enough to cover your rent in a shared apartment or a boarding house, but you'd need other money to fund your travels around the country.

In regards to paperwork, I think past messages are pretty straight forward, I always try to tell it straight. To work legally you need to get an FM3. In Oaxaca, you need to get something Apostillized, your degree or your CELTA (not both), and you need to get that translated. I translate documents for teachers working for us, but we have a realtionship with the immigration office that allows me to do so, otherwise, you would need someplace official (like the Mexican Consulate in England or the British Council in Mexico) to due the translation. An FM3 is good for 12 months and currently costs about 2000 pesos.

Best of luck,
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Sfletcher



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much - very helpful.

Just for the record � I am keen to experience the place and the culture, but I'm also going there to teach English and, hopefully, give something back to community. I don't see it as a totally selfish venture!

Steve
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