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[vikdk]

This debate is becoming very abstract - and so it should be

Remember - language is (especially the English language which is not governed by officially set rules of grammar/spelling/pronunciation - such as French) - is not a science where one can calculate through empirical method what is right or wrong - no it's got more to do with that very variable (abstract) world of creating a form of understandable communication - ya get my drift????. However as this debate points out - fashion dictates - that some of the variations of language are more favoured than others - especially on the Chinese EFL frontline!!!!!

[englishgibson]

where would our forums be without the lil flame here lil flame there

i sure understand the political threads where many bring their own sentiments in but this

[brsmith15]

Kat,

You'll have no problem whatsoever. Apply to schools while you're outside of China. When you get offers, and you will, be certain to run a check on those schools here on Dave's by doing a search. If the negative comments outweigh the positive ones, pass. There are some real horror stories told by those unfortunate enough to accept positions at some of these dumps.

Things to check:

1. Can the school legally hire you? If they want you to get anything less than a Z visa (like an F), don't.
2. Read the contract VERY carefully. Although most of these documents are useless as far as you're concerned, see what they're offering and what you are required to do.
3. Beware of long hours (more than 20 a week) and being farmed out to other schools.
4. After an offer ask the school for references, meaning past or present FT's. If they give you these (many won't), contact the ref and then ASK THAT PERSON WHO ELSE YOU SHOULD CONTACT.
5. Longevity of the school - - - how many yeas have they been operating AND have they always operated under their present name?
6. If the offer seems too good to be true, it isn't.
7. Look at their web site with a critical eye.

[dialogger]

Present yourself as 'bi lingual' on yr resume.
I taught with a bilingual Filipina at my last place and she was always offered renewal of her contract.
PM me if you want details of a liberal university to enquire at - better be quick as must be finalising August starts by now.
Ethnicity not a prob as I also taught with native English speakers of Chinese and Vietnamese origin.

[james s]

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[dialogger]

james is right.
I am reminded that I taught with a Singaporean too whose English was very heavily accented.
In the legit sector (unis) you should of course get same pay and other conditions.
He (Singapore guy) used to go to the bathhouse with the HR guy so that may have explained something.