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has anyone taught at fudan?
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restless



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: has anyone taught at fudan? Reply with quote

Confused A contact has put me in touch with fudan uni. shanghai, I am just finishing my tesol p.g.cert at mq uni sydney. My lecutrere feels there is something strange about fudan accepting me for teaching position, and being asked to desing my own writing course,
I would appreciate anyone's input about fudan, working conditions, what to expect,
I've tried negotiating re;salary, no room to move, so what are the expected class hours?
thanks everyone
btw Just a newbie,
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fudan's the top university in Shanghai. Someone with less than a masters being offered a position does sound strange, but if it's legit it could open doors for you.
Macquarie's post grad. TESOL courses are highly regarded: this could be relevant.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: thanks for your input Reply with quote

Hey, that's what my lecutrere said, you dont' have a masters, which really undermined my confidence,
I understand that our certificate is well regarded in the field, and that my contact is a close associate of fudan,
is this a genuine offer?
I would really love to hear from someone who has first hand experience,
thanks everyone
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though it's not first-hand experience, I still feel qualified to say that:

It's a Chinese university, nothing of much note outside China. If you are qualified to teach ESL/EFL, even without a Masters degree in anything, they (the university) ought to be grateful for acquiring your pedagogical services.
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restless



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: thanks for that shan shan Reply with quote

that is a confidence booster, Smile
gaining my tesol degree has taken hard work and a long time and costly, would hate to think it doesn't qualify me for work?!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may qualify you, alas it will do nothing to prepare you for dealing with the mentality of Chinese students. For they will confront you with their inbuilt zero interest, and total lack of enthusiasm.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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with their inbuilt zero interest, and total lack of enthusiasm

Maybe not so much inbuilt - but fostered by an educational system that doesn't focus on education as a training where the student becomes proficient in useful and relevant life-skills - but one where cram, cram and more cramming for those exams is the name of the game!!!!
If you don't teach any of your students English - then at least you should learn some very useful lessons on what a meaningful education is or isn�t Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese students are a mixed bunch,
I'm learning mandarin with cantonse chinese class mates, same level of motivation dedication
I'm teaching english at uni to international chinese students, different levels of laziness/motivation,

as a teacher the hard part is to be responsible for the student outcomes, when student won't do any of the work, when you see results, that's a motivating expreience for teacher and learner

anyhow, i guess i'll wait and learn,
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fitzgud wrote:
It may qualify you, alas it will do nothing to prepare you for dealing with the mentality of Chinese students. For they will confront you with their inbuilt zero interest, and total lack of enthusiasm.


Fudan is one of a few Chinese universities that is of international standard. I've taught graduates in company classes, and they've been excellent. Do what Chinese "professors" [the term is used loosely in China] do. Get it on your CV, then name your price at more pedestrian institutes, which I think is what fitzgud [any relation to Phil McCavity?] has in mind. It will open doors.
Can you run the offer past us? If it comes via a contact, and given the standing of the place in China, its most likely genuine.
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restless



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI esl studies
i feel this is genuine offer, my contact is an academic from usyd, and the offer is not too good to be true, as you'll see from the terms,

1. You will receive a monthly salary of 4 ,500RMB.
2. You will receive 2200 RMB vacation allowance at the end of his or her service.
3. You will be provided with a one-way air ticket of economic class from Shanghai directly back to his or her home state, or take 6000 RMB instead as airplane allowance at the end of his or her service.
4. You will be provided with a free apartment, including a sitting room, a bedroom, a kitchen and a restroom.
5. You will enjoy free medical care with the exception of registration fee and chronic diseases.
The working load is 14 periods per
> week. Each period lasts 45 minutes. There are two semesters within an
> academic year. Each semester lasts 20 weeks.
>
> Usually teachers are encouraged to offer English writing and speaking
> courses, three or two courses in each semester
maybe a little low, but they're not moving, can't do much from this end Embarassed
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