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eslstudies
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| James, just edit the original. Peace as well. |
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tofuman
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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OGFT,
Your cryptic comment regarding "common law" interests me. Would you elaborate? |
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OGFT
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| The marrage law of china reconizes common law. |
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tofuman
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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So the recognition of common law marriage, in this context, suggests that if an FT moves in with a Chinese girl, they are considered married for immigration purposes?
How long must they live together to enjoy this new found status? In the case of FTs who just want to shack up with a Chinese girl for a while and have no true intention of ever marrying her, how about them? How long can they use the girl sexually before they are considered married and actually become responsible for her well being?
So please, explain. |
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Joe C.
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: Re: married to a chinese girl? |
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| My girlfriend, and many other chinese friends have said just make a fake one. I don't really feel comfortable about that. |
Especially considering that it is illegal and extremely easy to detect whether or not the marriage certificate is real or not. |
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lostinasia
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, more factual details would be appreciated defining such common law marriage, non-marital cohabitation, and so on. I've got my own opinions, as others do, and would like to know the details. I'm sure it doesn't matter anyway, since most people employers would be hard pressed to "allow us" to live with our girl/boyfriends. |
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vikuk
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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The Chinese views on social morality are rapidly changing - only last year Beijing authorities openly started employing homosexual men at the start of a pre-olympic safe-sex campaign (aimed at what they called the "entertainment" industry) - this move was widely seen as sign of governmental tolerance for a sex practice that was before regarded as illegal.
As for living in sin - very recently you had to have permission from your work unit to get married - but today its just a case of queuing in a line at the local registry office and paying the small sum of 11RMB for your certificate. This lack of importance now given to the actual task of getting married seems to be mirrored in the big cities by so many Chinese couples who live together out of wedlock - who now have decided to wait until they are older before they start a family - who now choose to explore sexuality before marriage. According to my Chinese wife, still, in the eighties these kind of couples could get into trouble with the police (in one case people who were sentenced for taking part an alleged orgy were give the death penalty), but by the nineties these cases were very rare - and today - well she's never heard of it!!!!!
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| since most people employers would be hard pressed to "allow us" to live with our girl/boyfriends |
A couple of years or so ago, a story about BF/GF pair of students getting expelled from a Chong Qing uni because the girl got pregnant, made the news and caused a debate (in those days students were not allowed to marry - but now in many unis they are) - so some unis have strict rules about living together, unmarried, on campus - but off campus - so many students are now living in shared accommodation and enjoying themselves in every sense of the word - that any serious attempts by the authorities to stop a sexual revolution of the youth have long been put on a back burner - with far more emphasis now placed on educating with regard to safe sex. Last aids day I actually saw tricycles filled with free condoms that were being handed out to passers-by!!!!
So any one who is worried about what an employer is going to allow or not allow has certainly found a bit of China that doesn't seem to live up with mainstream social trends � bad luck � maybe you need to start looking somewhere else!!!! |
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