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Nagoyaguy



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Location: Aichi, Japan

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J. said;
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About the only one making a lick o' sense here is the poster who said try to treat your wife like a person who is upset, not a woman who is upset. Instead of worrying about how to avoid the argument and sweep the whole thing under the carpet, as some of the less enlightened have suggested, ( and which will only increase the frustration not diffuse it ) ask her what's wrong and allow her to talk, and listen to her. Then after you have listened, you can reassure her, apologize for seeming insensitive


I think you have the order wrong.

FIRST, you have to apologize (at least in my house).

After that, you gently probe for what the problem was.

Then, once you know the problem, you apologize again.

Finally, you go out for dinner.


That seems to work for me, anyway Cool
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japanman



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do think though that such problems arise a lot between English speaking couples. A lot of Japanese say things in English that they would never say in Japanese. They feel that English gives them the right to say whatever they like and be as blunt or disagreeable as they like. I realy don't understand these couples who only speak English, that is where the root of the problem arises.
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jademonkey



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said to my (Japanese) wife long ago, "The biggest difference between you and me is gender. Everything else is secondary. Therefore there is no problem that we can't work out." It worked, I guess.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I will back what J said. It does take a lot of patience, something even easy going me is short on sometimes. Surprisingly, Japanese have a different view of 'easy going', thinking it means you will accept anything, thus someone like the pig in the adage 'don't throw pearls before swine'. Also J, I never can use hormones as an excuse for when I am cross, though I wish I could! Cool

But actually I am one of those guys that can sometimes say, ' I understand you, and will defend your right to express your opinion, but I'm going to do my thing'


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I think you have the order wrong.

FIRST, you have to apologize (at least in my house).

After that, you gently probe for what the problem was.

Then, once you know the problem, you apologize again.

Finally, you go out for dinner.


I did apologize, but I couldn't really figure out what the problem was. Maybe Gordan is better at it than I am Wink . But besides, it was too late to go out for dinner, so I just took a walk and had a scotch after I got back home. At least I felt better right away Rolling Eyes , but I wasn't the one who was hopping mad, just the one who was puzzled. This probing aspect I think is also more common with some Asian spouses as per this example;

Chinese wife "My feet hurt." (shortly after arriving at the party)

Foreign Husband "Look, do your feet really hurt, are you bored, are you tired or did someone insult you, just tell me!"
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