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fluffyhamster
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 Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| Why not just investigate what the usual objects of 'be enjoying' (collocates coming after 'enjoying') are? It would probably beat untwisting one's knickers after a violent bout of semantics. |
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Reisender
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| markle wrote: |
| Can you enjoy a bad time? |
Schadenfreude; the very best kind of enjoyment. In fact, I've even been able to enjoy my own bad times with healthy doses of black humour. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Sometimes I think "Native speakers don't say it, it sounds silly, therefore don't use it" is a perfectly acceptable answer. Some students get caught up in wanting technical concrete reasons for why something is right/ wrong, but the reality is that languages often don't work that way. |
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6810
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| kdynamic wrote: |
"Enjoy" has got to be one of the most frequently misused words by Japanese speakers of English.  |
no, I'm sorry, but that honor goes to Tokyo Mitsubish UFJ for the word:
trustship. |
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J.
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Even better, or worse...HEARTFUL.
Amn't I full of heartful trustship?
I very enjoy a good time thinking that I am.
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gaijin4life
Joined: 23 Sep 2006
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Location: Westside of the Eastside, Japan
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I also think, `its not what a native speaker would say` is acceptable as a simple explanation - because some things just are not.
However, in 5, 10 or 20 years, most likely it will be acceptable in speech if not in written English. Language is constantly changing -
`all is flux; nothing endures but change ...` (Heraclitus)  |
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6810
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| J. wrote: |
Even better, or worse...HEARTFUL.
Amn't I full of heartful trustship?
I very enjoy a good time thinking that I am.
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That happen would be a quote for the week wouldn't't be? Amn't I right about this. I too, frequently enjoy good times when I let's go to drinking. |
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