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[snuffy519]

This is the last thing I'll say about this. What you said is simply not true. You had the German-Soviet non-aggression pact, signed in 1939, which lasted until the invasion in '41. The US was in N. Africa fighting the Germans in '42. The Soviets sustained so many casualties largely due to military incompetence. Ironic, considering that they did everything in their power to allow Germany to conquer Europe prior to Barbarrosa. Read Weinberg's "A World at Arms." It's a big book, but you'll begin to see how complicit the Soviets were in allowing the Germans to massacre millions in Europe beginning in the mid 30s up until '41. The Soviets were never noble allies. The made a deal with the Devil and got burned. That they reaped so much after the war speaks more to its initial incompetence (casualty numbers), the Russian Winter, and propaganda than it does to any virtue they held in common with the West. Their post war strategy sort of reveals their character, no?

Then again, you may be the sort that wears a Che Guevara t-shirt and chooses not to remember the truth.

Oh, uh, don't work in Europe illegally. It's wrong. If you do, you lose the ability to complain about anything.

[stillnosheep]

[SueH]

Oh, for goodness sake. Various contributions were made to the fight against fascism (whatever that has to do with this b.b.) but denigrating other people's contribution isn't a very mature attitude.

I don't need books to tell me that Britain entered the war unprepared in 1939, or the fact that the food ration included 1 fresh egg a month, 2 ounces of cheese a week etc. and rationing continued in some form until 1952. I learnt that from my Mum, who was strafed on the way to school by a low flying Heinkel. I had my Dad to tell me of the generosity and hospitality of Americans when he did his flying training in the US, or the completely different conditions prevailing over there.

I still think the sacrifices of the Russian people were far greater though.

[csfek]

I'm not writiing to join in the "what happened in WWII and after" debate, I just wanted to point out an opportunity for Americans who want to work legally in Italy and other places in Western Europe. The Fulbright commission offers one year English Teaching Assistantships in some European countries, including Italy, Spain, and France. For some of them, you need a Master's degree, but not for all of them.
Here's the website for those interested:
http://www.us.fulbrightonline.org/thinking_teaching.html.

[SueH]

Thanks csfek! There are ways of getting here, but it is difficult and any additional route will be welcomed. It probably wouldn't harm to put it in a separate thread, as I nearly didn't revisit this one, and others might feel likewise.

[newsygirl]

Although this article is on the Czech Republic, I would advise anyone thinking about working in the E.U., illegally to read this posting.
I just returned from Germany a few months ago, and the German officals at the airport checked my documents and scanned my passport to make sure I didn't extend my stay illegaly. Be careful if you try to break Italy's laws on immigration...

From the Prague Post:

Two Americans to be deported under Schengen
Men being held in refugee camp in East Bohemia

February 6th, 2008 issue

(Updated Feb. 12, 2008)"Two Americans who were illegally residing in the Czech Republic have been arrested, put in a camp for illegal aliens and are awaiting deportation, Mlad� fronta Dnes reports.

Police in the East Bohemian town of Prostějov arrested two American citizens who exceeded the three months they are allowed to legally stay in the Czech Republic without a visa, according to the newspaper. They are being held in a camp for refugees in Po�torn� na Břeclavsku.

The two men, who came to the Czech Republic in October, failed to leave the country during the three-month period. If the men had left, they would have automatically had the legal right to stay another three months when they came back.

Schengen agreements were made between European Union countries in 1985 and 1990 that allow residents in participating countries to travel freely without border controls. As part of European Union enlargement, the Czech Republic entered the Schengen zone in December.

Before the Czech Republic joined the Schengen zone, it was common practice for foreigners to leave for a neighboring country in any three-month period to fulfill the legal requirement.

But now that the nearest "foreign" border is with Ukraine, the procedure has become more complicated. Along with the Czech Republic, eight other countries joined the Schengen travel area in 2007 -- Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia. Prior to the expansion, there were 15 Schengen states. The island of Cyprus and Romania and Bulgaria are expected to join in the future."

The article's not clear that the men would have had to stay out of the zone for at least 90 days, to have the right to return for 90 more...but that is the case. No more one-day border runs

[BELS]

OOps! I must have got the wrong thread, I was looking for a legal well paid TEFL profession in Italy but it appears I accidently got into the current affairs thread about illegal American and Australian immigrants workin in Italy. Sorry about that.

Now where's my green card!

[mizzoumike76]

I say, if you want to work in Italy illegally, then all you have to do is stay out of trouble. My sister is a police officer in the States, and the only way an illegal will even get picked up by ICE is if they committ a felony. At which time they go to jail in the U.S., thank you very much American taxpayers.

If a cop off hand asks to see your papers and gives you grief, he wants a handout, plain and simple (this in no way ap