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hentaigaijin



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah: bog standard thai street food is crap (edible) but proper thai cuisine is awesome especially if you like spicy food!!!

if you are young, dumb and full of *beep* COME TO THAILAND FOR A YEAR AND THEN go to japan (famous last words).

i take it you have a degree. if you PM me asap i can sort you out with a good job. Wink
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markle



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
Food- I found Thai food to be good but lacking in immagination. You end up eating the same stuff all the time.


Where the hell were you eating? Did you even try to get away from KSR? Or did your language never progress beyond "kor khao pat neung jarn"
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nonsmoker



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hentaigaijin wrote:
oh yeah: bog standard thai street food is crap (edible) but proper thai cuisine is awesome especially if you like spicy food!!!

if you are young, dumb and full of *beep* COME TO THAILAND FOR A YEAR AND THEN go to japan (famous last words).

i take it you have a degree. if you PM me asap i can sort you out with a good job. Wink


Excuse me, what does that *beep* mean?

And I would like a job. Hook me up.

Thanks.
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hentaigaijin



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought you were going to japan?
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markle wrote:
japanman wrote:
Food- I found Thai food to be good but lacking in immagination. You end up eating the same stuff all the time.


Where the hell were you eating? Did you even try to get away from KSR? Or did your language never progress beyond "kor khao pat neung jarn"


Oh no, my language skills were quadruple that level. I could ask for neung jahn, sorng jahn, sahm jahn or even see jahn. The possubilities were endless.

Ofcourse I didn't stay in KSR but I still found the food very repetitive. Why can't people just accept that someone's experience is their experience and stop trying to put down all the time. It's just so immature.
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, your grammar is a bit wrong. When asking for one thing, the number comes after the object eg jarn neung etc, wheras two objects would be sorng jahn. But who cares.
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
Also, your grammar is a bit wrong. When asking for one thing, the number comes after the object eg jarn neung etc, wheras two objects would be sorng jahn. But who cares.


OK here is a bit of an explaination.

1. I used that form to reflect what someone with weak Thai skills would say.

2. It is a bit more correct formally, but it is as you pointed out more common to say 'jarn neung' also possible is 'ti neung', 'neung ti' , 'ti/ jarn diaw' or just plain old 'neung' but I'm sure you knew that.

3. The first Thai phrase I ever learnt (in 1988, I've spoken it pretty much on a daily basis ever since) was "kor bia neung kuat, krup" guess old habits die hard.

Any thing else about Thai grammar you think you can teach me?
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was only there for a year and that was ten years ago it's all pretty much faded away from my mind apart from the basics. Haven't even taken a trip out there for ages. What did you like about the place whick kept you there for so long?
Didn't you find that the standard street places churn out the same food? It's usually nice but so repetitive. Compared to the variety in Japanese cooking for example. The difference between okonomiyaki and sushi is huge. Almost like they are two countries' cooking.
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
What did you like about the place whick kept you there for so long?


The food.

Still, I suppose if you don't know what to ask for and don't know where to look it can be pretty limiting, I had the advantage of eating home cooking for a year before I had to fend for myself so I had a pretty good education on what was out there and how to get it. This why I know my experience of Japanese food is limited.
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anne_o



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny....I lived in Bangkok for a year + and never had a "ho"....or a girlfriend either, but I'm a woman so.......
I also didn't drink myself into a stupor every night, but instead lead a pretty normal life and found a variety of things to keep me busy in my down time. You have a lot of vacation/holidays which any reputable school will pay you for; so the opportunity to travel around the country or other places in s.e. asia is definatly feasible. I made enough money to live well....could have saved if I had wanted to. The students were great, I was always paid on time....mmmmm...what else?
I guess it's just really disgusting, yet not surprising, to hear that so many people view Thailand as a place to get wasted and pick up women. There's much more to Bangkok and the rest of Thailand.
Very, very, very.....different from Japan.....on the surface anyway!
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japanman



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markle wrote:
japanman wrote:
What did you like about the place whick kept you there for so long?


The food.

Still, I suppose if you don't know what to ask for and don't know where to look it can be pretty limiting, I had the advantage of eating home cooking for a year before I had to fend for myself so I had a pretty good education on what was out there and how to get it.


I'm a vegetarian, which limited the food a lot whilst I was over there. But I did know where to go and how to ask for stuff so stop making childish assumptions. I was living for a few months in a bloody hole by the traintracks near to Sukhumvit soi 4 with some great Thai friends of mine. I didn't lead a sheltered tourist life eating green curry on KSR etc.
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markle



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanman wrote:
I'm a vegetarian.
...which puzzles me even more given the range of vegetarian food available in Bangkok (if you know where to look). Then there is the whole month of October which is the Chinese Vegetarian festival.
Seriously, I feel sorry for you if you had such a poor experience because there really is some amazing food there.
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anne_o



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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow....a whole month of vegetarian food.....yes, how could a vegetarian complain! I eat fish, but have eaten no other meat for 12 years, and found it pretty difficult to find a variety of food in Thailand. Everyone cooks with fish sauce and most dishes have meat in them......sure you can order certain dishes, but selection is limited. Soup stalls, congee....all use a meat base!
But boy oh boy, that month of October was enough for me.....I just ate and ate and ate......enough so that I didn't have to eat the rest of the year.
The food in Japan is fantastic. Everything is so fresh...mmmmm!
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japanman



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I arrived in October and it was great to find so many vegetarian places around that time. Ofcourse in the city there are loads of places you can go but i just couldn't be bothered to get on a bus or in a taxi to go for lunch. The area that I lived in for most of the time was lacking in places with vege food, this being the intersection of jaransanitwong and pinklao.
Japan can be even worse for veges though, , so many restaurant literally have nothing. But my gf is a great cook so it's ok.
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