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Is TEFL and TESOL the same?
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM, great post. Thanks.

Tomasz- with your ed degree, your EAL experience, and the articulate way you express yourself on this forum, your resume would probably escape the bin, at least with me. Whether it had Global TESOL on it or not.

I think that a lot of your experience really looks solid for an overseas entry level teaching position. But I don't think that Global TESOL strengthens it any.

So why pay extra for something that doesn't get you much?

And as Tedkarma pointed out, the job guarantee is a gimmick, neither more nor less.

It's not too hard to find a job- whether people get hired in their country of origin, or their destination, varies from country to country. (Here, local is more common) But even if you're in your destination, knowing the local language shouldn't be an issue. People in good English institutes tend to speak English.

Best of luck,
Justin
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ilaria



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Sicily

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
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Tomasz- with your ed degree, your EAL experience, and the articulate way you express yourself on this forum, your resume would probably escape the bin, at least with me. Whether it had Global TESOL on it or not.


Agree completely, and I'll add 'nice personality' to Justin's list of the OP's good qualities!

There is usually movement binwards when I see the words 'Global TESOL' though. I want teachers who know how to teach, know about the English language, are nice to work with, and care about their students, not those who see a TEFL qualification as merely a piece of paper that's necessary in their job search.

The sad thing is that many people who would make good EFL teachers gven some real training are attracted to courses like Global TESOL.

I don't doubt that the OP is a good teacher already and I don't think the Global TESOL would really do much to enhance his resume at this point.
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TG12345



Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilaria wrote:
Justin Trullinger wrote:
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Tomasz- with your ed degree, your EAL experience, and the articulate way you express yourself on this forum, your resume would probably escape the bin, at least with me. Whether it had Global TESOL on it or not.


Agree completely, and I'll add 'nice personality' to Justin's list of the OP's good qualities!

There is usually movement binwards when I see the words 'Global TESOL' though. I want teachers who know how to teach, know about the English language, are nice to work with, and care about their students, not those who see a TEFL qualification as merely a piece of paper that's necessary in their job search.

The sad thing is that many people who would make good EFL teachers gven some real training are attracted to courses like Global TESOL.

I don't doubt that the OP is a good teacher already and I don't think the Global TESOL would really do much to enhance his resume at this point.

Hi Justin Trullinger, spiral 78 and ilaria,

Thank you for your advice and compliments and best wishes. In the best schools I've student taught in, the staff support each other and offer honest advice. We don't even teach in the same school, but you are already great teacher mentors! Thank you!

I haven't decided yet what to do with TESOL but you have given me a lot of food for thought and I appreciate that.

Take care,

Tomasz
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misterkodak



Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 166
Location: Neither Here Nor There

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. I feel like the TEFL course I did was a waste of time. I have a BA in German Langauge and lit with a minor in Spanish. I feel like I benefitted more from actually being a foreign language student than a student in a TEFL certification program. I had to take quite a few English courses as requirements for my degree.
I feel like the TEFL certificate was a formality. I took a TEFL course over the summer .. after I'd been teaching for about 6 months.
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Jetgirly



Joined: 17 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the title of this post not gramatically incorrect in a non-typo way?
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'tis ('nt) Surprised
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cgage



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 73
Location: Memphis

PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Misterkodak. I was wondering if TESOL programs were any good. I have an ESL degree and experience in the US. I was thinking that a TESOL program might be a way to learn more. Also, I've heard that employers are impressed by those certificates. I guess it wouldn't be worth the expense for me.
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