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dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Did anyone hear the 'Flower of Scotland' sung by two opera singers at the Scotland France rugby match on Saturday? No wonder we lost, it was hardly uplifting. It was total rubbish. (we do clutch at straws after defeat- it wasn't even our usual glorious in defeat)

guty · Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 365 Location: on holiday

All the anthems have been crucified by using operatic versions, except the 17 verses of the Georgian one.

AlexW · Joined: 02 Aug 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Sussex, UK

Hear, hear. Two stuffed shirts can't compete with 50 000 throats. I wonder if it's a sop to the sponsors?

I'm convinced the 'English' one has a chord progression from the "Robin of Sherwood" theme. A nice little bit of subversion-lite.

Now all they have to do is scrap that sub-Disney bollocks at the head of each program (Dame Kiri warbling on about 'the world in union' to the tune of I vow to thee my country) and we're sorted.

gregcamp66 · Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 12

scotland 1 - holland 0

yeeeeee haaaaaaaaa

10 mins to go

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

We still have to go to Holland midweek. I hate to say it but I think we will be yet again glorious in defeat. i hope I am wrong though.

guty · Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 365 Location: on holiday

All you jocks will be happy to hear
God save the queen
one more time on Saturday though,
right?

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

I will definitely 'be an Ozzie'on Saturday. i might even drink Fosters to show my loyalty. Mind you if you did win on Saturday you might stop going on about 1966!

lagerlout2006 · Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 985

Lets see if we are saying EEEEEYYYY HHHHAAAA in 24 hours . Hopefully!!! Wink

Hey dmb that will be a big one Sat night thanks for reminding me. Must find a good big screen TV that night but I might be on a train. Uh-oh.

Deborann · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:56 am Post subject: Lone piper

There is absolutely nothing like a lone piper playing in the mist (OK fog). Most evocative, romantic music in the world!

grahamb · Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945

Here's hoping Australia serve a large portion of humble pie to the auld enemy on Saturday.

guty · Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 365 Location: on holiday

I never saw that particular dish available in Oz.
Dmb, at least 1966 was a little more recent than 1328 (or whenever Bannockburn was),
and yez haev nae stoorped gaeninoan bout thatun yeet

dduck · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 422 Location: In the middle

I think you'll find that 1328 was when Edward III of England accepted the Treaty of Northampton, finally recognising Scotland as an independent country, and Robert Bruce as King of Scots. The Battle of Bannokburn was over a decade earlier, in 1314, where Bruce defeated Edward II.

If you're interested here's a link:

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_Scottish_Independence

If you're going to insult each other you might as well get your facts straight Razz

Iain

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

WANTED

A NEW SCOTTISH DEFENCE

SueH · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy

dmb - you were very prescient; that was a bit painful. Shame about Wales too.

I have to say from an English perspective that it would have been great to see Scotland and Wales in the European Championship. I just wish the Scots could get over their Auld Enemy hang-ups. Most of the time it's just great banter, like it can be with the Aussies, but some people seem to take it so seriously.

grahamb · Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945

Sue, we've had centuries of aggression, condescension and Margaret Thatcher to contend with, so you'll forgive us if we don't become anglophiles overnight.
If some of our southern neighbours possessed a modicum of humility they'd find themselves less unpopular in the world. The jingoist media is largely responsible for fostering aggressive English nationalism, with its talk of Jocks, Frogs and Krauts and references ad nauseam to Agincourt, Trafalgar and the two World Wars. They'd have us believe that the European Union is a life-threatening virus to be resisted at all costs. Remember the furore surrounding the appointment of that bally foreigner Sven the Swede as England coach? Sir Bobby Charlton's remaining hairs nearly fell out!
I spent eight years studying, working and wenching south of de border and get on as well with the English as with any other brand of humanity: It's just that I don't want them to win at anything, not even tiddlywinks. I prefer that kind of rivalry to kicking someone's head in for being born in a different part of the globe.
Iain, it was Eddie the Second to whom Bruce gave a thick lug. He was later murdered by nobles who administered a red-hot poker suppository fashion (another version says it was a pipe and glowing coals - equally nasty). Do you think the same treatment would inspire our national side to perform better?