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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's been a tough week, Justin, I just made myself a paloma, here, have one too


Thank you! (THough it's now monday again. Sad )

Assessment through portfolio is really interesting.

Another possibility to investigate might be on student input into the instruments for assessment. (How do they feel they could best show you what they've learned?) I've tried this various ways- but with varying success...


slds,
Justin
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that the OP should keep in mind is that for alternative assessment, the students should be well-trained so that they know what to expect. Like it or not, some of them expect "standard" things like tests. Portfolios, asking them about their own learning, interpretive dance, etc. might come across to them as a bit, uh..., hippy-trippy, touchy-feely, like we are not properly doing our jobs.

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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "interpretive dance thing" was a joke. Very Happy or at least an attempt. Embarassed

But I second that- students expecting traditional evaluation is NOT a joke. Whatever kind of evaluation you use, make sure that there's clear, open communication with students about it.

Be aware of local habits, as well. In Ecuador, there is a tendency to reduce everything ( I mean EVERYTHING!) to a percentage. So we're constantly explaining the 5 point grade scale we prefer. (We adopted this scale simply to avoid percentages- because I find it counter productive for students to think much about what percentage of English they know.) But in spite of the key that goes out with every grade card (5 Excellent, 1 deplorable, 3 average; But in more detail) students who get threes invariably come in and whine. "HOw could I possibly get only 60%?"

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denise



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it was a joke! I got a good laugh out of it, actually. Very Happy

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quoi_de_neuf?



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You scared off the OP! Be gentle with us newbies, please - we're fragile.

Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a lot of success last year (when I was student-teaching ESL to middle school students in a Canadian public school) when I got the students involved in the assessment practice. If you have samples of student work- SAVE THEM! Next year, cover the names, stick them on an overhead projector, and ask your new students to evaluate what works and what doesn't. Is it an A paper? A C paper? Does it even qualify as a paper? Talk it over and work collaboratively to construct a rubric. You can make a general one (say, for all written or spoken activities) or a specific one (for example, for a project where they interview three Canadians and present their findings in a PowerPoint slideshow). Have the student self- and peer-assess before you assess them. I find students do soooo much better when they're really, truly clear on the evaluation criteria, and the best way to bring about that clarity is through participation in their own assessment.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm back. We had a great time teaching at a youth camp in Russia and simultaneously training a group of teachers from the Vologda region. I did my homework on alternative assessment strategies (a topic I was assigned to lecture on). One of the most helpful resources was an article by Jo-Ellen Tannenbaum of the Montgomery County Schools (MD).
Thanks for all the input, everything worked out well. Smile
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