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[shadowfax]

The plot thickens, or should I say the slush.
I am reliably informed that a past candidate for an efl post was accepted by aeroslush but embargoed by the Saudi airforce. This appeared to be owing to his previous dissatisfaction and falling out with a former employer, with regard to a certain student behaviour and its perfidious toleration by "management" of the house concerned. He deduces that this led to that house's vindictive besmirchment of him and to his consequent blacklisting.
The behaviour in question- and here we come full circle: the mighty ghashash: CHEATING.
Well done, British Blairoslush!

[Cleopatra]

Of all the allegations of corruption against British Aerospace, the above has to be by far the most serious.

[shadowfax]

The person did not allege corruption against BAE: the press will be busy enough with that. He highly suspects he was prevented from taking up a post with Bae because a former Saudi employer in a private language school blackened his name, when the Saudi Airforce pursued a reference from them. If not, why was he rejected by the airforce committee after he had satisfied BAe on interview? If anyone can posit a reason for this, I should be happy to entertain some doubt. The likelihood that his surmise was correct, is much enhanced by the fact that he ingenuously put the former employer on his CV.
He left his former employer (one of settled notoriety) acrimoniously ,because a draconian and exploitative management refused to support the control of cheating and other gross behaviour by students.

[Cleopatra]

[shadowfax]

I don't expect you to know the ins and outs of anything, nor to bestow complete faith in anything I say. I do expect you to courteously acknowledge my right to articulate the information and opinions I may hold. Then again, I forgot you are Cleopatra Queen of Egypt. I always preferred Octavian to Anthony in Shakepreare's play, though the latter gets all the best poetry.
Remember what thou art!

[Cleopatra]

The real British Aerospace corruption scandal. Or one of them, at any rate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/baefiles/story/0,,2097149,00.html

[scot47]

I have noticed that most of the EFL teachers working for BAe are unhappy misfits in need of psychotherapy !

Mind you that is true of many EFL teachers anywhere !

[shadowfax]

Thanks for the link, mobbled queen, but I think some people would have detected that my post was precipitated by the events unfolding on TV this morning.
It is intersting to note that the project name translates as dove! Of course the dove is the symbol of peace and the Holy Spirit. What level of ignorance and perversion would one need to turn the ancient metaphor on its head. Who ever heard of a dove with a sharks jaws? Only an inhabitant of Broadmoor Hospital with learning difficulties, I deem.

[cmp45]

Big deal Shadowfax ...so 'your friend' never got the job...
**** happens...the old saying "what goes round comes round"...may apply here...

Why would he use such a past employer as a reference in the first place if he knew that there had been a 'falling out with them"

His past employer obviously felt he had his reasons for the poor reference...seems to me if anyone submits a past employer as a reference he should first ask that 'said employer' if he is willing to offer a positive reference first...seems if your friend had a clean record / background with that previous employer your friend would have been accepted by BAE.

Seems there is something not being said with this story of yours. Just a tad biased I think.

[shadowfax]

He put the employer on his CV as proof of experience. This proved an obvious mistake.
As for big deal, I never used such terms. However, if you cannot appreciate the ramifications I don't have time or inclination to explain them to you. What goes around comes around is all very well: by this reasoning we are all guilty of something. Are you sure you are not playing the puerile tough-guy of New York, or something?

[cmp45]

[shadowfax]

I believe someone has been watching too many James Cagney films.
Your proverbs are also very trite. Sorry, this last word is probably beyond your ken.

[cmp45]

Shadowfax said:
I believe someone has been watching too many James Cagney films.

James who? Never heard of him?

It's a hard pill to swallow, yes, I know another trite saying simple straight forward advice...Just something to think about...
your credibility would come through much stronger, if you just stopped with your "overly flowery language" since 'flowery' prose seems out of place when writing about regular everyday teacher related topics on this forum; hardly seems appropriate; as a 'self proclaimed scholar', should know this....
Save your "beautiful words" for your poetry readings...otherwise you DO come off as a weirdo. or at least that's my assessment...if you talk like that in person, then I am sure people are laughing behind your back.

[shadowfax]

I use this style as it amuses me, and I am not sure I believe one can communicate everything by adhering to a simple words and simple sentences only regime. We should remember this is a teacher's, not an upper imtermediate student's forum; though students would be welcome if they didn't try to clip my flowery wings. And of course I don't talk like that, except in jest.
Sorry if it isn't to your taste. By the way, isn't it about time you did something with that avatar??? Or would that be rather too much of a bitter throat-stretching 2 gram capsule to swallow? Pots, kettles; motes and beams. We eat the air, proverb-crammed.

[cmp45]

Yes it is rather messy, garish and down right irritating...isn't it.