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Aspiring 19-year-old overseas ESL teacher/assistant: help!

 
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kingmalka



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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Location: San Diego - Hong Kong

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Aspiring 19-year-old overseas ESL teacher/assistant: help! Reply with quote

Greetings everybody Smile

As a quick background, after finishing high school here in Los Angeles I honestly felt that I wasn't quite ready for another 4+ years of school. I thus acquired a position as iT for a game production company in Santa Monica, and have been saving money ever since. I am now 19 and ready to begin a new adventure and possibly life abroad.

I believe I have a fairly strong grasp of the English language, and I truly wish to help students communicate their thoughts, feelings and dreams by empowering them to use the tools of language to reach out and connect with other human beings -- truthfully, however, my passion for overseas teaching mainly derives from the opportunity to experience a completely new country and culture. I also feel the need to develop as a human being and member of society before returning to school.

My question for you kind folk is thus: I have already purchased a ticket to Israel to visit family in Tel Aviv (July 3rd-August 1st). It would clearly be quite convenient to remain in Israel and teach there (if at all possible), but I would honestly prefer to experience a culture I havn't already engaged with. For one such as myself and current situation, what suggestions could you all offer as far as teaching/assisting to teach English without a professional degree in Japan? Is it hard getting work permits? Finding jobs? Where should I start? Must I be fluent/knowledgable in the home country's language? I'd love to hear of personal stories ... suggestions ... or any comments for that matter!

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Eagerly awaiting responses,

- David
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a US citizen (I presume?) with no degree and no EFL teaching experience, you cannot get a working visa in Japan- there are no loopholes. You could get a student or cultural visa and then apply for permission to work part-time but you must be seriously studying something like Japanese language or martial arts most of the time.

Or you can marry a Japanese national, get a spouse visa, and take whatever work you can find.

Even if you did one of the above, with no degree and aged 19 very few employers would consider you.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi David,

I noticed that you posted your question on some of the other forums on Dave's which leads me to conclude that you aren't necessarily after a teaching job in any particular region, specifically.

Teaching, in general, and especially in countries like Japan, requires a little bit more formal post-high school training and experience. For the most part, getting a work visa to teach English here requires a 4 year university degree (a Bachelor's degree) whether it be a BA or BSc. Although some people will tell you that it's not absolutely necessary to have this, given your current situation, you would not qualify to obtain a visa in any other way.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but in order to have ANY chance at getting a job in Japan, you would need far more experience or education, preferably more in both departments. You have to understand that the competition for good English-teaching jobs (even not so good ones) is fairly high... There are many people available to fill positions who already have undergraduate university degrees, and many more who have a fair bit of teaching experience under their belts.

Good luck in your search though.
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Nismo



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got the cash, you may as well just enroll in a language school and learn Japanese. You can work up to 28 hours with permission from immigration, but you must be enrolled in and attending a language school. Other than that, there's really nothing you can do besides go there as a tourist for 3 months at a time.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Aspara about the work visa. No chance.

If you want to become a student full-time here, you could apply to work part-time at most. Just remember how much that work (in a new field and in a new location with the allure of sightseeing) would detract from such studies.

The cultural visa has similar opportunities and caveats.

Let's look a little more carefully, though, at what you perceive of the EFL world here.

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I truly wish to help students communicate their thoughts, feelings and dreams by empowering them to use the tools of language to reach out and connect with other human beings
Regardless of the type of visa you get, you would still be starting out in entry level jobs -- conversation school or (horrors!) ALT dispatch. Probably more the former than latter. What you wrote above really doesn't match up with what students go there to learn. Conversation school students, unless they are kids, have had 6 years or more of English education and merely go to such places to socialize or pick up the occasional expression that they may find useful on an overseas trip. It is not for serious study in order to be empowered. Other teachers may disagree with me, but that's my opinion.

You do not need to be fluent in Japanese to work here as an EFL teacher. Most probably barely get by as it is. Of course, the more you know, the better your chances of having a good time and surviving. You certainly won't be expected to use it in the classroom.

My advice: "develop as a human being and member of society" elsewhere, get a degree, and then consider what to do here. The degree doesn't even have to be related to teaching.
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