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elliot_spencer



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: teaching in High schools Reply with quote
Is it true that to teach in a high school in Taiwan you need to be a certified teacher back home and just having a BA won't do.... even if the BA is in TESOL?

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BigWally



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes that is true
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Big John Stud



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: teaching in High schools Reply with quote
elliot_spencer wrote:
Is it true that to teach in a high school in Taiwan you need to be a certified teacher back home and just having a BA won't do.... even if the BA is in TESOL?

Thanks guys


I was told by one company all I needed was a bachelor degree and a TESOL certificate! Does anyone know for sure?
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ghost



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: teaching in High schools Reply with quote
Big John Stud wrote:
elliot_spencer wrote:
Is it true that to teach in a high school in Taiwan you need to be a certified teacher back home and just having a BA won't do.... even if the BA is in TESOL?

Thanks guys


I was told by one company all I needed was a bachelor degree and a TESOL certificate! Does anyone know for sure?


As someone who has worked in a Taiwan high school, with the right credentials (I have a B.Ed. and M.A.) the official position is that you need a B.Ed. to work in a Taiwan High school, however the reality of the situation is different, as most people who possess B.Ed's do not seek Taiwan High school positions, when they can do much better teaching at International schools in other countries.

For that reason, many High schools in Taiwan will accept 'teachers' without the real credentials.

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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you are looking to work legally within a high school (i.e. the high school provides you with a work permit and ARC in their name) then you need to be a certified teacher back home and are limited to high schools that are approved to employ foreign teachers.

If you don't care to be working illegally then you can get a job at a high school without qualifications.

I assume that the OP is asking about the former so yes you do need certification to work in high school in Taiwan.
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timmyjames1976



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know how this would work for someone with open work rights? I assume that it's ok.
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outoftowner08



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: BA question Reply with quote
Hi. I got a job offer at an international school in Taipei without a teaching certificate. I have a BA in journalism and several years of random experience, some of it teacher-esque (running volunteer workshops, teaching volunteer training sessions, etc.) I used to be a reporter. My boyfriend got a job at the same school teaching social studies. I didn't think this was possible, but apparently, it is. I will be teaching language arts to grades 9 to 12. I know this is not a Taiwanese high school, per se, but it is somewhat similar.
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markholmes



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Outoftowner, you are comparing chalk and cheese and it shows that you haven't done enough research.

As already pointed out to you, the deal you are getting isn't good (actually as an ESL teacher it's good, but for your boyfriend it isn't good at all). There was not a single positive post on the other forum about what you are being offered. You need to listen to these people.

If you feel that you can negotiate with the school then you should negotiate for your boyfriend as he is the certified teacher. Your deal is already good for a newbie ESL teacher.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
BigWally wrote:
yes that is true


Technically ...yes
Officially ... yes

Unofficially / in reality ... it depends.

I only have a B.A and my Tesol but I'm teaching part time in a local high school with my current buxiban employer as the 'agent / intermediary'.
This is Asia; many things that appear carved in stone are flexible or at the very least negotiable.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: BA question Reply with quote
outoftowner08 wrote:
I got a job offer at an international school in Taipei without a teaching certificate...I know this is not a Taiwanese high school, per se, but it is somewhat similar.


The only similarity is the age of the students.

From a legal perspective these are two entirely different types of employment and as I believe that the OP is looking for legal work I think that it is best to keep these seperate.
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