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boundforsaudi



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: American Tax Question Reply with quote

I left the USA Oct 1, 2005. Using the period Oct 1, 2005 to Oct 1, 2006 for the physical presence test, I was OK for not paying federal income tax, as I only spent the month of August in the USA. Here's my problem: For my next physical presence test, do I have to begin Oct 1, 2006 and run to Oct 1, 2007, or can I have an overlap and begin Sept 1, 2006 and run to Sept 1, 2007?

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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother with the physical presence test as you are now eligible for bona fide residence. You can use this for the rest of the time you work overseas as long as you don't switch your residence back to the US.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion. Can you tell me in a nutshell how the bona fide residence rule works? But I'd prefer the physical presence test because I may want to return to the states and go to college, in which case I'd need to meet the residency requirements for in-state tuition. So I still need an answer to my original question. Anybody have access to the language of the rules?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bona Fide Residence Test
One Full Year of Residence
You are considered a "bona fide resident" of the foreign country if you reside in that country for "an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year." A tax year is January 1 through December 31. The qualifying period for the bona fide residence test must include one full calendar year.
Trips outside the Foreign Country
Brief trips or vacations outside the foreign country will not jeopardize your status as a bona fide resident, as long as the trips are brief and you clearly intended to return to the foreign country. You can even make brief trips to the United States.


Another problem under the bona fide residency test is if I go back to the States now, to re-establish residence there, then I'd owe taxes on what I earned in Oman during 2007, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or does my residency in Oman during all of 2006 give me residency status that also applies to income I earned in Oman during only a portion of 2007? That would be perfect.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

answer to my question from the IRS website:

In determining whether the 12-month period falls within a longer stay in the foreign country, 12-month periods can overlap one another.
Example:
You work in New Zealand for a 20-month period from January 1, 2003, through August 31, 2004, except that you spend 28 days in February 2003 and 28 days in February 2004 on vacation in the United States. You are present in New Zealand 330 full days during each of the following two 12-month periods: January 1, 2003 - December 31, 2003, and September 1, 2003 - August 31, 2004. By overlapping the 12-month periods in this way, you meet the physical presence test for the whole 20-month period.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundforsaudi wrote:
Bona Fide Residence Test
One Full Year of Residence
You are considered a "bona fide resident" of the foreign country if you reside in that country for "an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year." A tax year is January 1 through December 31. The qualifying period for the bona fide residence test must include one full calendar year.
Trips outside the Foreign Country
Brief trips or vacations outside the foreign country will not jeopardize your status as a bona fide resident, as long as the trips are brief and you clearly intended to return to the foreign country. You can even make brief trips to the United States.


Another problem under the bona fide residency test is if I go back to the States now, to re-establish residence there, then I'd owe taxes on what I earned in Oman during 2007, right?


No... once you are a bonafide overseas resident, it is in effect until the day you leave the foreign country - even in mid year.

No one uses the physical presence test once they have completed 12 months overseas. Using the bonafide residence rule allows you to spend even 2 or 3 months in the US as long as you don't get a job there and are only visiting. You need pay no attention to counting days and can visit the US more than one time.

VS


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundforsaudi wrote:
But I'd prefer the physical presence test because I may want to return to the states and go to college, in which case I'd need to meet the residency requirements for in-state tuition. So I still need an answer to my original question. Anybody have access to the language of the rules?


Whichever rule you use on your federal taxes should not affect your in-state tuition requirement. I can think of no situation where use of physical presence would prove that you live in a state... you have still been overseas for 11 months. The university that you intend to attend sets its rules on this. For most places, if you have an address in the state and/or file a state tax return, you're all set. If you can't prove either, you are out of state.

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