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tw
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| Yes I got the invitation letter but the employer wants me to send them these documents back to china so i sort of have to get it done here. |
What else do you have besides the invitation letter? Actually, what does the invitation letter say? Is it from the school or from the local education bureau? Again, is there a VISA NOTICE so your local Chinese consulate can issue you the Z visa?
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This is what they want me to send to them by mail:
1. passport copy
2. diploma copy
3. physical examination record (You can call the nearest China�s Embassy or Consulate�s Office located in your country consulting them about the Physical Examination)
4. recommendation letters ( if you have any)
5. work permit application form ( see attachment)
6. 10 photos |
That's the same process I had to go through to apply for a job in Liaoning. Your employer's local PSB and the education bureau is doing everything by the book. They want to make sure you are perfectly qualified and in good health before they'd issue you the FEC.
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| Write back to them and say that you don't need the physical examination to get your z visa in the UK, and as it is so expensive and time consuming to get it here you would prefer to do it when you are in China. Explain that you have already been told that you will have to repeat the medical anyway once you arrive in China. Also offer to send them a general letter from your GP stating that you are in good health. |
Bad advice! It's not whether the Chinese Consulate in UK wants to see a medical exam report, it's the people in CHINA who need it. |
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WYSIWYG
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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A Z visa is merely an entry visa. In order to get an FEC and residents permit, you'll need the exam, which can be done here in China.
Well...at least in ZheJiang province...
Edit: I should add that a Z visa is an entry visa that means you intend to apply for the FEC and residents permit once you arrive in China. I'm sure there have been changes since I originally had to deal with this...but I wouldn't come to China on anything but a Z. An L or F can be difficult/impossible in some provinces to switch to a residents permit.
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jeffinflorida
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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OP what most posters are saying is to get the exam in china. your school will have a"hospital" that they take you do where they may or may not actually perform these tests but at the end will provide you and your school with the correct form you will need to get the correct working classifaction.
The cost in china will be very little - maybe 100 or 200 yuan which is much lower than having it done in the UK where you are likely to pay more. Also there have been posters who have said in the past that they took the exam in their own country only to find out that it was not accepted in china and thus wound up spending money - and sometimes much money - on something that had no value once they arrived.
So wait till you get to china and let your school handle it for you. |
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Joe C.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| jeffinflorida wrote: |
OP what most posters are saying is to get the exam in china. your school will have a"hospital" that they take you do where they may or may not actually perform these tests but at the end will provide you and your school with the correct form you will need to get the correct working classifaction.
The cost in china will be very little - maybe 100 or 200 yuan which is much lower than having it done in the UK where you are likely to pay more. Also there have been posters who have said in the past that they took the exam in their own country only to find out that it was not accepted in china and thus wound up spending money - and sometimes much money - on something that had no value once they arrived.
So wait till you get to china and let your school handle it for you. |
Jeff is right. More often than not, the medical exam you have had overseas will not be totally acceptable in China and they will make you redo all or a part of it (usually the blood tests) here.
Related to the costs, it is much cheaper here, but that's not the issue since the school pays, right? Even though the school tells you they will pay for you to have it done at home before you come to China, when you show up with a $200 medical exam bill watch them change their tune ... fast! |
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tw
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Again, it seems many people are unaware of the fact that a medical clearance is required by the local authorities before the paperwork needed for visa notice, etc can be issued. This is not always about doing any medical check, this is about doing the medical check so the FT can be approved for the documents needed for a Z visa. |
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Joe C.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| tw wrote: |
| Again, it seems many people are unaware of the fact that a medical clearance is required by the local authorities before the paperwork needed for visa notice, etc can be issued. This is not always about doing any medical check, this is about doing the medical check so the FT can be approved for the documents needed for a Z visa. |
No, the medical examination is necessary to obtain the residence permit. A "Z" visa and a residence permit are two totally separate things. |
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WYSIWYG
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| Joe C. wrote: |
No, the medical examination is necessary to obtain the residence permit. A "Z" visa and a residence permit are two totally separate things. |
Exactly. As I said above, a Z visa is an entry visa that allows you to enter the country and stay 30-days while the FEC and residents permit are processed. When people say they are "working on a Z", it really means they came on a Z (or in some cases had an L or F switched over) and now have a residents permit stuck to a page in their passport.
Last year my residents permit expired along with a contract. I went to the PSB and got a 30-day extension. They did not extend my residents permit, but rather issued me a 30-day L. At that time I was told that a Z visa is required before the FEC can even be processed. My new school dragged their feet a little too long, so off to HK I went to get a new Z.
If a school asked you to enter on an L or F, I'd be careful. Not all provinces will switch it to a Z for you. |
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tw
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| Joe C. wrote: |
| No, the medical examination is necessary to obtain the residence permit. A "Z" visa and a residence permit are two totally separate things. |
That too. I am also aware of the difference between a Z visa and RPF. But let me repeat myself one more time: more and more provinces now require the FT submitting a medical report to show a relatively clean bill of health before the authorities would issue the paperwork needed for a Z visa.
The medical exam in China is a ANOTHER medical exam and that, as everyone knows, is needed in order for the RPF be issued. That exam CAN be skipped if the FT can provide a copy of the FIRST medical exam, as I did in Inner Mongolia.
Many FT's have also reported that when they moved from one province to another, the medical exam needed for the issuing of the new RPF was not necessary. I didn't have to take a medical exam when I moved from Inner Mongolia to Jilin province. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| I've looked at some of the China's websites (USA, UK and Peru) and none of them mention the medical on the application. YOu just have to say that you don't have any of X diseases. So does that mean that the medical can be done in China? I hope so, it'd be so much cheaper |
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tw
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| YOu just have to say that you don't have any of X diseases. |
Can you imagine the wave of HIV-positive FT's all flooding into China if it were that easy?
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| So does that mean that the medical can be done in China? I hope so, it'd be so much cheaper |
If the employer sends you the paperwork needed for your Z visa, then you are OK and don't need the medical exam. If they tell you to get one done and send the results back to them BEFORE the local authorities would process your case, then you are SOL. |
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englishgibson
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i can't imagine the wave of HIV-positive flooding into China if we could just come without "being checked" on mainland, but i am beginning to "imagine" and wonder what might happen to me during one of those checkups before my work visa's yearly renewal ... those needles for blood tests they use are of my major concern ... they are at times clueless too ... the last time i went for a health check to renew my permit (a couple months ago) they wrote down in my health certificate that my blood was B type .. they just changed my blood type and i went to the same hospital a year ago too 
anyway, i am gona consider the F visa next time and for good so that i do not have to deal with those hospital freaks that think they are the smartest and that they are sooo clean 
peace to chinese doctors as well as their lovely nurses
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cheers and beers to no more needles up my vains of arse  |
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dave_merk
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Englishgibson,
Are you saying that you need a medical check each year when you renew your RPF? Is this yet another things that varies from province to province in China, because I had one check-up in 2003 to get my initial RP (the old green book) and never had to get another when renewal time rolled around each year. I wrote a post about this once. Anyone else have to get a check-up each year?
Here's what I had to do for my work visa:
I filled out the form that I downloaded from the Chinese consulate webpage. I did the blood tests and x-rays and all that. My doctor filled it out for me. Took that to the Chinese consulate with all my work papers and had a visa issued. Took another medical test (very general: heart print-out, maybe chest x-ray, reflexes, blood test for HIV, hep, and syphillis) here in China and had RP in hand in a week's time. Never had another exam since then. |
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