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The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;)
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Yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;) Reply with quote

So I'm sitting down for lunch today. I have a little extra time and that explains this post Wink

You know those little half sandwiches you get at the conbi, those sandwiches that remind you of home and even have their crusts cut off for you? Well today I'm checking out the back of the package instead of ripping right open and low and behold these suckers are on average 350 calories

So I click on over to a calorie counting website and the shocking facts are revealed.

Calories in 1 cheeseburger (141g): 379kcal
Calories in 1 Chicken Drumstick (67g): 195kca
Calories in 1 serving (78g) of fries: 207kcal
Calories per slice pizza (66g): 171kcal

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/calories/calorie_counter/fast_food.htm

Shocked JHC, looks like I will be heading for Mickie D's for lunch from now on. Wink
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect at least 350 calories in my pack of sandwiches.
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Yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about CHEESE sandwiches!? Wink
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;) Reply with quote

Yawarakaijin wrote:

Shocked JHC, looks like I will be heading for Mickie D's for lunch from now on. Wink


Probably not a good idea. There's calories and then there's calories. You also need to look at other factors like saturated fats, carbs, protein, sodium (a BIG problem with fast food) among others.

Avocados used to be frowned upon as being high in fat, until people started to realize that it was mono saturated, and tended to raise GOOD cholesterol, thereby being a very healthy choice...

Another good example are nuts. Nuts (like peanuts or walnuts, etc) tend to be LOADED with calories, but are also considered quite healthy. Having a snack consisting of 350kcal worth of peanuts and vegetables and maybe some yogurt dip, versus a snack consisting of a McD cheeseburger which will be about the same on the kcal meter, which do you think is more conducive to a healthy diet and weight loss?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;) Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:

Another good example are nuts. Nuts (like peanuts or walnuts, etc) tend to be LOADED with calories, but are also considered quite healthy. Having a snack consisting of 350kcal worth of peanuts and vegetables and maybe some yogurt dip, versus a snack consisting of a McD cheeseburger which will be about the same on the kcal meter, which do you think is more conducive to a healthy diet and weight loss?


Yep. it's like, Which is heavier 100lbs of rock or 100lbs of feathers? Which would you rather land on if you fell from the twentieth story of a building?
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gaijin4life



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;) Reply with quote

Yawarakaijin wrote:
Well today I'm checking out the back of the package instead of ripping right open and low and behold these suckers are on average 350 calories

I found that quite shocking because intially I assumed that salad or tuna salad etc. sandwiches might be more healthy than some of the other bread-type things available at the combinis - like `curry pan` etc.

- I think alot of the calories must be in the mayonaise that is often liberally applied to the sandwich filling .. Confused
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Yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know sandwiches can be what you make them, either healthy or not, I was just shocked that these little suckers packed such a punch. Personally ,with the meager amount of meat and cheese in those things, I wouldn't even consider them a proper sandwich Wink As one poster pointed out, there must be something up with japanese mayo. Wink
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: The evils of Japanese Sandwiches little off topic ;) Reply with quote

Just so I don't get accused of talking outta my butt, so here's some info to back up what I just said.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KGB/is_10_5/ai_n8694278

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa16.htm

http://www.cityofhope.org/Media/ReleasesMedSci/AreAllCaloriesCreatedEqual11-01-03.htm

http://www.naturalchampion.net/articles/article/2410291/51175.htm

An excerpt from that last link (which is actually a pretty good read):

Common sense observation tells us that all calories are not created equal � or if in scientific jargon they are, then all foods are not created equal. Quite simply, if two groups of people maintain a daily intake of 2000 calories and group A derives the calories from toast, coffee with cream and sugar, hamburger and fries, pizza, ice cream and sugared soft drinks and group B obtains the calories from egg whites, oatmeal, chicken, fish, green vegetables, sweet potatoes, brown rice, and sugar free beverages, it doesn�t take a degree in rocket science (notice we didn�t say �nutrition� as that can sometimes be a mixed bag) to figure out that group B will look better, feel better and perform better than group A.
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cornishmuppet



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough, I borrowed a book from work today entitled 'Fitness on a Plate' by Anita Bean, and flicking through it found that mayonaise is listed alongside avocados and peanuts and a couple of others as containing monosaturated fats, which are apparently good for you. The Department of Heath (I think from the UK) says monosaturated fats should make up 12% of your daily calorie intake, according to this book.

Sounds like those sandwiches might actually be good for you.
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gaijin4life



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornishmuppet wrote:
.. Sounds like those sandwiches might actually be good for you.

Shocked But I thought nothing from a combini was good for you - isnt it even a rule somewhere !!! Laughing
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Clerk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a side note to some posts above, it's monounsaturated fat. Trans fat should be avoided at all costs, saturated fats should be severely restricted, and unsaturated fats should be taken in with moderation.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to meet the madman that invented noodle sandwiches.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijin4life wrote:
cornishmuppet wrote:
.. Sounds like those sandwiches might actually be good for you.

Shocked But I thought nothing from a combini was good for you - isnt it even a rule somewhere !!! Laughing


Compared to convenience stores in the States and Europe combini's are like health food shops.
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JonnyB61



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cornishmuppet wrote:
Funnily enough, I borrowed a book from work today entitled 'Fitness on a Plate' by Anita Bean,


A Bean???

No, I'm not having that!
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User N. Ame



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the calories in conbini food that worries me, but the various unknown preservatives and chemicals needed to get it from factory to inaka Lawsons, plus the 2-week shelf life required maintain is "fresh look" to sell.

And what about those meat, egg and cheese sandwich buns that sit on the room temp rack... ? ...

... calories are the least of your worries.
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