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Parents and Kids In Turkey
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Do you have Kids
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One-Two
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justme



Joined: 18 May 2004
Posts: 1944
Location: Istanbul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I felt like no more than a paid actress at my own wedding, I was not consulted on one detail or allowed to make any choice. Although I had always got on well with my in-laws it really opened my eyes and I decided that the next big event in my life will stay firmly in my control and will take place far from Turkey


Snap! Not that I would have been much of a wedding planner anyway, but it sure as hell would have been a lot cheaper and a lot less elaborate if I'd had any say...

I would like to have another kid, but can't face doing it here again. It's not exactly right to say my MIL spoiled the first days of life with my new baby (those days were astounding and gorgeous no mater what), but from the moment she showed up (about an hour after he was born), everything became all about her (like, she was mad that we hadn't invited her to join us for the labor, as though she had any business there at all) and my stress level shot up until she left (or rather, I more or less kicked her out) 5 days later-- I didn't even start making milk until she was gone! I didn't want her in our house in the first place, but she insisted on staying over (her plan was to stay for the 1st 40 days whether I wanted it or not, but fortunately my husband and FIL conspired to put an end to that), and though my husband is mostly a champ, he couldn't bring himself to tell her 'no.' I seemed to be the only one who thought it was some sort of Freudian nighmare having my husband's mother come into our room when we were in bed together because she thought I couldn't tend my baby on my own.

And Listener, you are also spot on-- who's to say anything will be better if we leave Turkey? It could be that my husband would be just as miserable in the US, or it could be that I'm a miserable person no matter where I am. There is a reason I came here, after all.
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misterkodak



Joined: 04 Apr 2003
Posts: 166
Location: Neither Here Nor There

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have mixed emotions about kids here. I have 2 stepdaughters.For this reason, I couldn't picture me working in Istanbul again. My wife has a decent job here. The oldest is already in college and goes to one of the better private universities in Istanbul on scholarship.Much to the surprise of my colleagues, my youngest goes to a government school here. She has 25 kids in her class. We have a good dialogue with her class teacher. I wish I could say the same for her English teacher (my daughter's English is better than her teacher's). Still, you can't win it all. It's not that I can't afford a private school, but from my experiences in teaching in them, they're little more than daycare for children over 6 year olds. Most kids are clueless when they go into them and they're even more clueless when they leave.
Now that it's summer, the firm I work for has me tasked to teach a TOEFL prep course to two young hormone-overloaded (gold chains included) male graduates of the private school system. After 6 years of mommy and daddy "paying big money", they can't speak a full sentence of English. They make Beavis and Butthead look like Einstein. Do parents really think theyr'e doing their kids a favor by giving them to just any private school system? Unfortunately (for them) Anne and Baba can't buy them the University Exam.
My in-laws are great. They pretty much leave us alone We can raise our children as we see fit. I guess it's because they spent 25 years in Germany. Their biggest complaint is that they don't see the kids enough.
I guess my gripe with how children are brought up here is how boys are so much more favored over girls. I get bored with the "o cocuk" mentality here. It's like a blanket excuse for everything. Lil jethro is 4 and still in diapers.. it's ok. "o cocuk", little jethro sets the house on fire, it's ok. Laugh and say "o cocuk". It's like alot of parents regard their kids as housepets or easy entertainment.
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calsimsek



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Posts: 775
Location: Ist Turkey

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the recent thread started by Ghost. It kind made me think, am I being naive in my belief that things are safer here.

I now we all get pissed o**ff when someone touches or kiss our kids on the street, but it's never in a weird or uncomfortable way. They real do love kids in this society and they seem to think its ok to show affection to total strangers kid...

How would this sort of thing go down in the U.K or the States. I think at home it would be a bit of problem but not as much as you would think.

Are there an army of sicko freaks out there or is the media just scaring the s**it out of us
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Posts: 778
Location: Hong Kong

PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: I WANNA BE A HOUSE-HUSBAND Reply with quote

MEDRACER wrote:
We're planning to squeeze one out about this time next year. The idea excites me, but there's lots of issues I keep putting off at the moment: education in Turkey...home-schooling...the religion question...will they grew up perfectly bilingual or just babble in a mishmash of Turklish...

They'll speak Turkish frequently. They'll learn from other kids even if only around them infrequently.

I have a kid here in Japan...non-Japanese...and he's already saying the words for 'I dont understand' and 'ouch'...in Japanese!! He's only 1 1/2 and just babbling nonsense most of the time with a few instances of clarity.

He's often just with his mom and me most of the time (and we just speak English in the house)...but when he interacts with other kids...he picks things up quickly like that.
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