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Darotker



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: HESS desperate? Reply with quote

Just noticed that HESS is now offering to pay for airfare and has a start up loan for it's teachers.

They never had that when I worked there and it seems to me a CLEAR indication of how desperate they are for teachers.

When I was working there, less than half of my training class stayed for the year and completed their contract.

I've heard it's gotten much worse lately, with people quitting left and right. Is there any better indication of a Company than how many people actually complete their contract?

There is no large school with a worse reputation amongst teachers in Taiwan. As has been mentioned many times in this forum, HESS is a stale school, with a really poor track record with it's teachers.

The point is, there are much better options.
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pinkflyd7



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Location: Austin, TX (previously Taichung City)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't surprise me at all. Hess chose not to renew my contract (for reasons I have stated previously in other posts), even though they were in the midst of a major teacher shortage. Another teacher I worked with didn't have his contract renewed simply because the "secretaries didn't like him." Hess seems to have a complete lack of common sense.

When I first started working at Hess, they offered me a free apartment for 3 months (in Hsinchu). So they were pretty desperate then, I guess they're even more desperate now. I think the first thing they should do is raise their minimum salary from (the extremely low) 560 nt an hour to at least the bare minimum of 600 nt an hour that most other schools offer.
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davidla



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The airfare loan is new, but they have have been offering loans to new teachers for years.
I thought their return rate was about 90%?
David
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StayingPower



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: HESS desperate? Reply with quote

Darotker wrote:
Just noticed that HESS is now offering to pay for airfare and has a start up loan for it's teachers.

They never had that when I worked there and it seems to me a CLEAR indication of how desperate they are for teachers.

When I was working there, less than half of my training class stayed for the year and completed their contract.

I've heard it's gotten much worse lately, with people quitting left and right. Is there any better indication of a Company than how many people actually complete their contract?

There is no large school with a worse reputation amongst teachers in Taiwan. As has been mentioned many times in this forum, HESS is a stale school, with a really poor track record with it's teachers.


The point is, there are much better options.


But gee, I'd thought Clark Griswald had said You're the only one complaining about HESS. . ."trying to rubbish the name. . ."

Disproved, Clark. Hence, "specious reasoning."

But I guess it's like the Chinese saying: "Want less, regret less." .
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: HESS desperate? Reply with quote

Perhaps I am missing something here but how is the addition of something to the foreign teachers benefit somehow translate across to be something that teachers can use against the school as a complaint. Seems kind of self-defeating to me. Kind of comes across as if some people are having trouble finding legitimate complaints against the school so are grasping at straws in the hope that one stands out as a legitimate complaint.

StayingPower wrote:
But gee, I'd thought Clark Griswald had said You're the only one complaining about HESS. . ."trying to rubbish the name. . ."


StayingPower if you had a valid point to make and a valid way to argue it then you would not need to resort to misquoting me as you have done here. You could instead be very honest in your replies and still prove your point.

I have not stated nor suggested anywhere that Darotker is the only one complaining about Hess. I have openly accepted that there are a number of people who complain about Hess - rightly or wrongly. I have questioned the validity of whether those complaints automatically mean that the school is in the wrong. In fact to be totally fair it was Darotker who suggested that no one likes Hess, not the other way around.

StayingPower wrote:
Disproved, Clark. Hence, "specious reasoning."

But I guess it's like the Chinese saying: "Want less, regret less." .


I am not exactly sure what that means but if you care to explain then I will be happy to reply.

Generally speaking good English teachers are good communicators in English so perhaps whether you were let go by Hess or whether you walked out the door it might have been to their advantage as the students may have had trouble understanding you if teach anything like how you write on this forum.
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