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7969
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 Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Advice for non-Caucasians? |
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| PAzine wrote: |
Ewww... ixnay on the okerpay. |
LOL.... a face like a can of crushed .... a@%H*l#s
i would definitely take a crack at #5 though. |
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brsmith15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, send 5 through. I need an assistant to work under me.
Leave the others where they are. |
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tw
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#5? You guys have got to be kidding, right?
#1 - Party Secretary for the Foreign Languages School
#2 - Dean of the Foreign Languages School. She has published a textbook which students in this school use for one of their two reading (extsnsive or intensive) classes and it is full of Chinglish. Some English professor she is!
#3 - Vice Party Secretary
#4 - Vice Dean
#5 - Vice Dean (was Director last term) -- she looks a lot nicer in picture than in person
# 6 - Director |
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therock
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I would pass on all of them 1 to 6. They all look like they were on the Revenge of the Nerds movie.  |
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Loop
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Location: NE China
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| Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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therock wrote:
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| I would pass on all of them 1 to 6. They all look like they were on the Revenge of the Nerds movie. Laughing |
Ahhh, nerdy Chinese women... 
tw wrote:
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| #5? You guys have got to be kidding, right? |
I agree with brsmith15, she's hot. 
OP, as PAzine said, don't take it personally (yes, I know it's hard not to) and keep plugging away towards your goal. It is possible. Maybe you want to consider other cities besides BJ (or Shanghai or Guangzhou, if you were). In the smaller cities (ie less desirable for most FT's), they can't afford to be quite as picky. You do have something going in your favor though: it's getting late in the hiring period for next fall so your chances will be better. Best wishes. I hope you can find a position. |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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You will be amazed that levels of "Whiteness" do exist.
I'm White but a mixture of Italian and Irish which gives me a brownish colored hair with streaks of red in it.
I also have bright green eyes, I've had students tell me I don't look like I'm from America and claim my accent was not the standard English they think I'm supposed to have.
Then I've seen, East Europeans with Blonde Hair and blue eyes with sharp angular facial features (pointy nose ect) and thick non-native accents get job positions over Native Speaking Kiwi's with red hair.
So some of us WHITE guys seem not White enough for some of these high-profile money making outfits.
I figure if you're qualified and do a good job, you should get the job.
For hiring Asian's ABC CBC's I think it's great. Nothing better than having an American Born Chinese with good qualifications and clear speech telling Chinese students, it is not difficult to learn English and inspiring them to try harder. They set a good example to others. Often some students feel like giving up because they think good English ability is only based on ethnic background.
"English is easy for you, you're White." They couldn't use this one with an ABC or CBC. |
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jg
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For the OP, given that you already know what to expect, genuinely dread it, but are coming anyway, I'm curious - whats the attraction? Or who's the attraction? 
Is it the food? language? Olympics? |
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voodikon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Advice for non-Caucasians? |
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| The ones that made offers were ones for whom skin color is not an issue -- those are the sort of people I want to work for anyway, so it's all good. |
i think this is the point.
in terms of practicalities, however, i'd suggest that you just be up front with your ethnicity in your initial inquiry letters. it might dissuade certain employers from continuing correspondence, but it'll also save you a lot of time and frustration, i'd guess.
also, as other posters suggested, perhaps expand your consideration of location to places other than beijing, where so many people want to go.
on a related note, though this doesn't really have anything to do with you other than tangentially, i have an abc friend here who's been working the past two years as an FT recruiter for his school and who has a particular affinity for hiring abcs and other non-white teachers, much to the chagrin of his boss. unfortunately, from what he's told me, out of four of his non-white hires, three were duds, either flaking on the job or not performing the task competently, as ridiculous as that sounds. one was a model teacher, which is good, but imagine the impression it makes on the boss when the majority of the white teachers he hires more or less do their job well and the majority of the non-white teachers do not. doesn't help things along, i'm guessing. anyway, that's something that's so disgruntling the friend about this job that he's quitting. |
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