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Hsinchuguy
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:35 am Post subject: Making a clean break |
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I'm considering leaving a job which I'm very unhappy with and I'd appreciate any help/advice that anyone can give. Next month I'm going home for a holiday and I come from a city which has a Taiwan Cultural and Trade office. I'm wondering if the best way to change my current situation is to get a tourist visa and then come back and quit my job, thereby allowing myself some breathing space to find a new job after my ARC is cancelled. Or is there another route I should take? Should I try to set up a new job before I leave or would this look bad to any potential new employer? Also, what sort of fallout may I expect to experience from my former employers or the government?
I'd like to hear from anyone with any experience with this type of situation. |
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Mozilla
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm in the same situation amigo. What I am doing is taking chinese lessons---this allows me to stay in taiwan for 180 days w/o doing any visa runs. |
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jason_seeburn
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Making a clean break |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Giving advance notice may not be the best option. Often they will dock your pay, cut your hours and initiate you unofficial deportation.
It really depends on the school. Talk to past teachers who have done what you intend to do. A midnight run is often the best choice. |
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brian
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to agree with Aristotle on this. Although telling them what your plans are may seem to be the most logical and reasonable thing to do, things may not always turn out as you plan.
My advice would be to tell them that you will be returning home for personal or family reasons and be as vague as possible. Line up a job before you leave if you can so that you have somthing waiting for when you come back. Have your previous employer cancel your visa, come back in on a new visa and get a new work permit with your new employer. |
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jason_seeburn
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Pop Fly
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You are NOT banned from the island.....yeeeeesh....maybe the county....if the school even bothers to do the extensive paperwork....very rare....
Getting yourself fired works, telling them you are going home for a wedding, funeral, anything, and then quitting from home works, midnight move works, hell, even telling them you don't want to teach there anymore and could they transfer your work permit to another school may work....only you know your school and can best judge what method to use.
You get banned from the island for much more serious transgressions than quitting a job. |
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brian
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Aristotle and Brian are both wrong. If you do a midnight run, the school will blacklist you and you won't be able to work on the Island again. |
I don�t see any reference in my post recommending that teachers run away. Teachers who run away without notice are not only disrespecting their school and co-teachers, but are disrespecting the students that they teach and giving the rest of the foreign teachers a bad reputation. I agree with Aristotle that it is best not to tell them your future plans, but make no reference about not giving advance notice of your intention to leave.
Under my recommendation you are giving notice and quitting your job for personal reasons and making it quite clear to your employer that you will be returning home to your own country so that they know that they can cancel your visa. Just don�t tell them that you will be coming back again and working for another school. This is all perfectly reasonable in my opinion and just serves to protect you should your school attempt to cause trouble for you. Provided you follow the above procedure you are not really giving them the justification to blacklist you and they would be unlikely to do so if they were under the impression that you weren�t coming back anyway. In most cases schools only go to the trouble of having teachers blacklisted if the teacher has rubbed the school the wrong way. Whilst schools are obviously within their rights to blacklist teachers who do just run away, it is unfortunate that schools are not always justified in their decision to blacklist teachers. There is a process involved, and as blacklisting impacts on the reputation of that school with government they are hardly going to blacklist every teacher that leaves their employ. Be as respectful and responsible as you can throughout the process of your resignation, but don�t leave yourself open by openly stating your future plans. I did, and I paid a price for this. |
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Hsinchuguy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:58 pm Post subject: food for thought |
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| Thanks for taking the time and effort to give advice and relate your personal experiences. I have some thinking to do. |
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