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TiGrBaLm
Joined: 23 Feb 2003
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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 Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: Public school gig on a working holiday visa? |
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Hello,
I am currently in Korea and I am returning home (Canada) soon.
I didn't really have a good experience in Korea and wanted to go back to Japan for another round (I was there on JET from 2003-04) in late-august/early september.
I know that there is more money in Korea, but having lived in Japan, traveled there on numerous occasions, and being able to speak the language, really have me wanting to go back.
I have noticed on a lot of the job boards that most of the public school jobs (interac, etc.) require you to be in the country.
I was thinking that if I obtained a working holiday visa, would I be able to secure employment working in a public school?
Any advice/comments would be appreciated
Thank you! |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Public school gig on a working holiday visa? |
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| TiGrBaLm wrote: |
I was thinking that if I obtained a working holiday visa, would I be able to secure employment working in a public school?
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IIRC, that sort of work is outside the bounds of the WH visa, and the chances of finding somewhere that will give you a part time job for six months or less within the public system is probably not going to be that high.
Good luck on looking though. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Since you worked on JET, you must have a bachelor's degree. Why are you considering a working holiday visa when you could get a work visa? That would allow you to work in the public schools, as you have described.
Public school jobs are relegated to 3 types of teaching positions:
JET ALT
dispatch agency ALT
direct hire
The last one is pretty rare. You could do JET again, if you like, I think. Or you could try for the dispatch job (not a great reputation these days).
Of course, there is always the conversation school route to get your foot in the door, too.
Is there some reason you are shooting for a public school job? |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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I pretty much agree with Glenski! Except I don't think you can do JET again! They like to hire people who have not been to Japan and seldom if ever re-hire.
Most of these dispatch companies do hire abroad! However as Glenski wrote most are not trust worthy! |
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TiGrBaLm
Joined: 23 Feb 2003
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
Since you worked on JET, you must have a bachelor's degree. Why are you considering a working holiday visa when you could get a work visa? That would allow you to work in the public schools, as you have described.
Public school jobs are relegated to 3 types of teaching positions:
JET ALT
dispatch agency ALT
direct hire
The last one is pretty rare. You could do JET again, if you like, I think. Or you could try for the dispatch job (not a great reputation these days).
Of course, there is always the conversation school route to get your foot in the door, too.
Is there some reason you are shooting for a public school job? |
Hi,
I didn't know that I could obtain a work visa. So I guess that would be the best way to go. I was looking at my local consulate's site and they stipulate that to obtain a work visa, one needs a "certificate of eligibility".
How does one go about obtaining this document? It seems as though it is only obtainable in Japan, correct?
I'm looking at a public school position, as all the work I've ever done teaching english has been in public schools and I feel most comfortable with that and am not really looking to be enslaved at some McEikaiwa.
Other than the frigid Tohoku region, I really have no preference as to where I get a job.
Thanks |
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Yawarakaijin
Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Location: Middle of Nagano
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:44 am Post subject: |
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It's pretty simple.
Step 1: You find a company that wants to hire you.
Step 2: They get the ball rolling on the visa work.
Step 3: They (your future employer) send you the certificate of eligibility
Step 4: You take that to your local Japanese consulate and begin the application for a working visa.
Step 5: They give you a working visa if everything is in order.
Step 6: You go to Japan and start your job. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think you can do JET again! They like to hire people who have not been to Japan and seldom if ever re-hire. |
I was slightly in error about getting rehired. The current JET pamphlet says they will consider applicants for ALT positions if they "Have not participated in the JET Programme since 1997." So that discounts TiGrBaLm. Sorry about that.
But to say that they like to hire people who have not been to Japan is also a little inaccurate. Specifically, the pamphlet says they will consider applicants who "Not have lived in Japan for three or more years in total since 1999." I don't think anyone but JET knows how much life experience their ALTs have had prior to getting hired.
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| Most of these dispatch companies do hire abroad! |
I am not so sure of that, but I don't know for certain. I would suspect that many (most?) dispatch agencies are fairly small and local and not really looking for candidates unless they are already in Japan. Just my educated guess.
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I didn't know that I could obtain a work visa. So I guess that would be the best way to go. I was looking at my local consulate's site and they stipulate that to obtain a work visa, one needs a "certificate of eligibility".
How does one go about obtaining this document? It seems as though it is only obtainable in Japan, correct? |
Yawarakaijin gave you a good answer. You need to find an employer willing to sponsor you first. My earlier remark was meant only to say that you have the basic minimum requirements for a work visa. You can get the COE whether you are in Japan or not. |
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