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upchuckles
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 Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: Cost of Chinese Visa Increasing for US Citizens? |
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Anyone heard about this? Saw it recently at z-visa.com
"ACCORDING TO THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS. VISA FEES WILL BE ADJUSTED ON A RECIPROCAL BASIS STARTING AUGUST 01, 2007. THE FEE INCREASE IS APPROXIMATELY + $50 "
So does this mean instead of the $50 buckaroos we pay now its gonna be $100? -Yikes!
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tw
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From www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/t334452.htm
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According to the instruction from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, starting from Aug. 1, 2007, visa fee for U.S. citizen will be adjusted on reciprocal basis . The details are as follows:
1. No matter of the number of entries, visa fee for the individual applicant will be $100 per person.
2. Visa fee for group visa will be $80 per person.
3. Expedited service fees will be charged as usual. |
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therock
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eslstudies
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I think its a case of having done unto to you what you do unto others. China reciprocates in the case of visa costs.
What does the US charge Chinese citizens, once they've jumped through a few dozen hoops? |
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WormFood
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Cost of Chinese Visa Increasing for US Citizens? |
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| upchuckles wrote: |
| So does this mean instead of the $50 buckaroos we pay now its gonna be $100? -Yikes! |
Inflation is not prices going up, it is the value of your money going down. It just goes to show you, the us dollar is worth less and less all the time. |
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HunanForeignGuy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: See Below |
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| eslstudies wrote: |
I think its a case of having done unto to you what you do unto others. China reciprocates in the case of visa costs.
What does the US charge Chinese citizens, once they've jumped through a few dozen hoops? |
Dear ESLStudies,
You are completely on the mark here.
First, the hoops as you write are atrocious for those citizens that are not on the scheduled list of visa-waivered countries. Unfortunately, since that horrible incident in Virginia several months ago involving a foreign national and the massacre of 10's of United States citizens, the already-stringent visa screening requirements for the non-scheduled countries have become even more stringent.
Additionally, most persons are not aware of the fact that by long-standing statute in the United States, any persons belonging to, or having belonged to an organization affiliated with, or itself the C*mmun*st P*rty is routinely adjuged to be inadmissible to the United States when and if this information becomes available to Consulate conducting the interview. In China it is my understanding that less than 15% of all B2 (tourism and business) applicants are approved.
Now, in terms of the fees for B2 (tourism and business) visa, here is the blurb from the United States Department of State website. It has NOTHING to do with the value of the United States dollar.
"What are the Required Fees?
Nonimmigrant visa application processing fee - Each applicant for a visitor visa must pay a nonrefundable US $100 nonimmigrant visa application processing fee.
Visa issuance fee – Additionally, if the visa is issued, there will be an additional visa issuance reciprocity fee, if applicable. Please consult the Visa Reciprocity Tables to find out if you must pay a visa issuance reciprocity fee and what the fee amount is. If there is a fee for issuance for the visa, it is equal as nearly as possible to the fee charged to United States citizens by the applicant's country of nationality."
All the best,
HFG |
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cj750s
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| What does the US charge Chinese citizens, once they've jumped through a few dozen hoops |
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| Nonimmigrant visa application processing fee - Each applicant for a visitor visa must pay a nonrefundable US $100 nonimmigrant visa application processing fee. |
Right you are..and that is just for the "Chance" to go in and answer three questions by usually unqualified window clerks who decide admission on a criteria preset by the admin...window thugs who justifiy the expensive process by quoting security measures necessary for their safe keeping while leaving the rest of their citizens hung up and left out to dry... unconcerned about their charges..these embassys and consulates are money facilitating orgs. concerned with the protection of the multi nationals as opposed to servicing the people... |
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HunanForeignGuy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| What does the US charge Chinese citizens, once they've jumped through a few dozen hoops |
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| Nonimmigrant visa application processing fee - Each applicant for a visitor visa must pay a nonrefundable US $100 nonimmigrant visa application processing fee. |
Right you are..and that is just for the "Chance" to go in and answer three questions by usually unqualified window clerks who decide admission on a criteria preset by the admin...window thugs who justifiy the expensive process by quoting security measures necessary for their safe keeping while leaving the rest of their citizens hung up and left out to dry... unconcerned about their charges..these embassys and consulates are money facilitating orgs. concerned with the protection of the multi nationals as opposed to servicing the people... |
Dear cj750,
Actually the Consulate in Guangzhou is quite the cash cow. I understand that it may be one of the top consular cash cows around...alll adoptions for the United States made in China must be processed through Guangzhou and the fees are hefty, hefty, hefty, all along the line, from notarizations, to authentications, to passport fees, etc., affidavits, etc., etc. and they are charged along US lines.
As for the clerks being whatever, they are given a set of guidelines to follow and the guidelines are rather straightforward -- things like does it appear that applicant has sufficient reason to return to China? Is the applicant duly employed in China in a position that he or she must return to? Is the applicant Party-affiliated (that's an immediate bye-bye)? Does the applicant have sufficient financial resources that can be clearly evidenced?
There are actually more than three questions -- it's usually about 15-20 minutes, although there is an initial screening and then the final interview. I am not commenting or whether it is justified or not; I am only commenting on what is in place.
All the best,
HFG |
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China.Pete
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: America's Cash Cow |
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"Actually the Consulate in Guangzhou is quite the cash cow." - HFG
And the applicants pay all of these fees without any kind of guarantee that their U.S. visa application will be approved. In fact, they can expect that in most cases their application will be denied. If the Chinese took the concept of reciprocity to the extreme of denying the same percentage of visa applicants as the American consulate does, then we would REALLY have something to complain about. As it is, I get the visa and my school usually picks up the tab.  |
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HunanForeignGuy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: Re: America's Cash Cow |
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| China.Pete wrote: |
"Actually the Consulate in Guangzhou is quite the cash cow." - HFG
And the applicants pay all of these fees without any kind of guarantee that their U.S. visa application will be approved. In fact, they can expect that in most cases their application will be denied. If the Chinese took the concept of reciprocity to the extreme of denying the same percentage of visa applicants as the American consulate does, then we would REALLY have something to complain about. As it is, I get the visa and my school usually picks up the tab. |
Indeed...and all of the related State Department fees will increase on August 1st, as noted in another thread.
When I first got a passport, in another century, it was something like USD 30.00 or even less...now with all of the expedited fees and the like, it can easily hit USD 200.00.
And yes, china.pete, you are right -- not only are they humiliated in an inhumane visa process but 95% of the applicants are rejected on the first pro forma interview. |
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cj750s
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| As for the clerks being whatever, they are given a set of guidelines to follow and the guidelines are rather straightforward -- things like does it appear that applicant has sufficient reason to return to China? Is the applicant duly employed in China in a position that he or she must return to? Is the applicant Party-affiliated (that's an immediate bye-bye)? Does the applicant have sufficient financial resources that can be clearly evidenced? |
Not the interview I heard..they could only ask what relationship did the young lady have with the foreigner who she wanted to visted the states with and two other questions before rejecting her app.. he refused to consider any of the information she had brought with her which included bank statement, house ownership and employment..all I saw was a Ebonics plagued glorified window clerk who had a vicious attitude problem.....a hard a$$ that was hard to understand..and I am from the south.....of cource I have only heard one interview and it may be unfair to characterize all embassies as such but when I tried to call the US embassy today..I was greeted with a pre-recorded tapes..and menus...and could not reach a living person..it didnt do much to assure me that any tax dollors paid are being spent in my interest...
as to the party...I have always been amazed that school visa applications for the children of PLA members are approved even though they will state that their (the parents) income is a state secret and some of them are party members... |
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Tarheel 13
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| I just got mine. It was $30 U.S., but I'm a Canadian living in the U.S. For all you from the land of the free and home of the brave, it's still $50 U.S. |
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