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homersimpson



Joined: 14 Feb 2003
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Location: Kagoshima

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CIRs and SEAs do get a different visa from ALTs


There in lies the confusion! Sorry about that. Didn't mean to confuse the issue. Confused
But, one "fact" I do know about work visas for teachers (or more accurately Specialist in Humanities/International Services, and a question that gets asked a lot, is that they can be 1 year or 3 years. This decision seems to depend largely on the direction the wind is blowing when you arrive at Narita. In any event, a lot of potential "newbies" have used phrases like, "I'll just use 'such and such' school to get my 3-year visa and then I'm set." Don't assume you'll initially get the 3-year visa. I've worked with some who only got 1-year and had to renew. It's not a big deal (to renew), but people should be aware of what's stamped in their passport.
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muffin



Joined: 27 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:30 pm    Post subject: similar situation Reply with quote

I have sent off all my paper work for the cert. of eligibilty through one company. So now, if something better comes along (before I leave for Japan) would I apply for another cert.? Or could I use it with a different employer?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have to reapply. The COE will be linked to the sponsoring employer. After you have the visa, however, it's yours. You will need a letter of release (a legal requirement that your employer cannot shirk) in order to transfer to another employer with that same visa.
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muffin



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick response, Mr. Glesnski. I have one more follow up question. Is it possbile to apply for more then one certificate of eligibility at the same time? Or will Immigration see that I have one already and think that I am up to something sneaky.

I ask because I accepted a position and then had an interview with a company which offers much better benefits. Maybe that second company won't offer me a job, but if they do, I would like to take it.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muffin wrote:
Thanks for the quick response, Mr. Glesnski. I have one more follow up question. Is it possbile to apply for more then one certificate of eligibility at the same time? Or will Immigration see that I have one already and think that I am up to something sneaky.

I ask because I accepted a position and then had an interview with a company which offers much better benefits. Maybe that second company won't offer me a job, but if they do, I would like to take it.


Muffin

can you explain to me how you plan to explain to immigration that you will hold down two full time jobs at the same time. Your employer is the sponsor of your visa and sends the paperwork for your visa. If you are going to dangle him along and wait for a better offer, he may very well withdraw the offer of employment. Immigration will not offer you a second COE while you have an application going through for one already, and at some point you will have to choose between one employer or another. If you are so keen to go with the second one, you best bet is to hold off signing the contract, see if you get an offer and simply hope that the first employer is willing to wait up to a month for you to make up your mind.

What you propose sounds like trying to have your cake and eat it too.

You may have an interview with someone else, but you also risking alienating and p***sing off the employer who has already offered you a job, perhaps lining up accomodation etc. To me it sounds terribly unprofessional, and that a person who does that to a potential employer lacks spine and common courtesy.

If you dont want to work with a particular employer or plan to get a visa through them, DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT.


You will find that of the eikaiwa schools that hire overseas, most of them are pretty much the same and there are not that many differences between them, especially in terms of salry and working conditions.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you apply in the same city for a COE, you will likely be found out. In different cities...who knows? However, I think you should just be patient and see what the two interviews hold. Likely as not, any job offers will be a mere 2 weeks apart, and since the COE processing takes 3-4 months, you will have plenty of time to dwell on things more important...like how or when to dump your apartment, how to store your belongings, how to deal with money transfers, etc.

I really wish I had the time to get down to a bookstore and buy that book The Japan Visa Handbook and see if there is this info inside.
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