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What's the best country to teach in?
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What's the best country to teach in?
Poland
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Czech Republic
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Japan
16%
 16%  [ 2 ]
Thailand
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
France
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Spain
8%
 8%  [ 1 ]
Italy
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Vietnam
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other
58%
 58%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 12

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Gautsch



Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Location: Toyota, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Cheers! Reply with quote

Hey,

thanks for all the responses!!

Yes, a link to that thread would be greatly appreciated. I have been browsing the forums of all those places and that's why they're shortlisted.

As for Swiss nationals: Yes, I'm the only one I know who's teaching English Smile and I've been looking around the net for answers but I can't seem to find any regarding permits in the EU. As far as I know, there's some special deals going on...e.g. I can legally work in the UK, no probs, but I don't know about other countries.

yes, my girlfriend is coming with me.

As far as preferences go: I'd be most interested in university level jobs (esp. EAP), but any kind of work would be ok...I'm not too keen on teaching kids, though. DoS might be stressful, good point. I'm just after a bit of a challenge now. Eikaiwa get boring and i can't get a uni job here until my Master is done next July.

I speak German natively and English well enough for no-one to ever know that I'm not a native speaker. At least I think so Smile My French is not bad, but definitely not good enough to teach.
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denise



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link. There are only a few responses, though.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=53846
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, a bit of doom and gloom with a bright spot at the end:

In light of the American girlfriend, you are likely limited to the 'new' EU member countries. As mentioned, unless you're prepared to marry for the passport, she won't be eligible for legal working permission in the 'old' EU member countries.

Further, I was asking around last week about how Schengen laws may change hiring practices in the Czech Rep (for example) and no one knows yet, but it's generally expected to tighten restrictions of hiring non-EU nationals. I don't claim to know what effect this might have on you, or your girlfriend, but you should probably be aware that legal work permits may not be an easy process even in the countries where she's eligible to work.

Uni jobs aren't easy to land. You don't need just qualifications and experience and some local language skill, but also contacts and local recommendations, which usually mean an advance commitment in the area, before you find an opening. The openings are relatively rare.

However, good news: most teaching in Europe through private language schools is to adults, mostly businesspeople in their workplaces. ESP, not EAP... but not kiddies.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ecuador is the best place to teach, hands down.

Nice climate, lovely people, good mountains, beaches, jungle...

Traditional food is a bit on the yuck side, but we get the most amazing fruit here...


slds,
Justin
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Out of the five or so countries I have taught in, Spain wins hands down; great night life, friendly people, there's history, culture....lots to do...shame pay is so poor though


Interesting countries do not need to pay well. Countries that people do not want to go to usually pay more.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I speak German natively and English well enough for no-one to ever know that I'm not a native speaker.


Well that depends when you moved to Australia. I am assuming that you moved to Australia sometime in your life.
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QatarChic



Joined: 06 May 2005
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Location: Qatar

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
QatarChic wrote:
Out of the five or so countries I have taught in, Spain wins hands down; great night life, friendly people, there's history, culture....lots to do...shame pay is so poor though Crying or Very sad


Were you able to save anything?


Sorry naturegirl-just read your post..... I was there pre-Euro days, and so the money I had left over I used for travelling around Spain. Nowadays, I have been told that assistants get paid around 631- which is a paltry sum and won't get you far...are you thinking of going there?
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Gautsch



Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Quote:
I speak German natively and English well enough for no-one to ever know that I'm not a native speaker.


Well that depends when you moved to Australia. I am assuming that you moved to Australia sometime in your life.


I moved to Australia ten years ago, when I was 17. A tough age to still acquire full fluency, but since Switzerland is such a multilingual country and I've been learning 5-6 new languages since I was about six I think I've been doing OK.

Anyway, Ecuador and Mexico sound fun, but I wouldn't mind a take-home. Any other suggestions?
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Gautsch



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops..double post
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only taught in five countries - so can't give you a REAL world perspective.

Thailand for enjoying life

Korea for making money - and still some enjoyment

Saudi for serious money and no enjoyment (except on the nice vacations you can afford to take to get away).

Taiwan - was a great compromise for money and enjoying life, but I lived in a nice section of Taipei if that makes any difference.
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Gautsch



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tedkarma wrote:
I've only taught in five countries - so can't give you a REAL world perspective.

Thailand for enjoying life

Korea for making money - and still some enjoyment

Saudi for serious money and no enjoyment (except on the nice vacations you can afford to take to get away).

Taiwan - was a great compromise for money and enjoying life, but I lived in a nice section of Taipei if that makes any difference.


Thank you , tedkarma! That's exactly the kind of comments I was looking for. Anyone else with similar experiences and maybe different countries?

I'm (or better: my girlfriend is Smile not interested in Middle Eastern countries, Korea or China btw.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only taught in Korea. So I don't know what to really tell you.

You can save money in Korea if you are looking to get ahead for the future. You can save $1000-2000 a month depending on your job. If you have experience I would look for a job paying 2.5 million won with housing. That would give you about $1000 a month to spend and you could save $1500. You would get free housing in Korea so $1000 a month will give you a nice life style. If one is not that interesting in saving money there are probably better places to live than Korea.
Especially if you don't want to be stared at or asked why you have hair on your chest. Despite the bluntness of Koreans they are usually nice people and are willing to help you when you are in need.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Despite the bluntness of Koreans they are usually nice people and are willing to help you when you are in need.


Excellent comment - and very true. Quite decent people really, particularly one on one.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excellent comment - and very true. Quite decent people really, particularly one on one.


Add to that, that Koreans usually treat each other more poorly than they do foreigners. Most would not dare say to foreigners what they say to each other.
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Gautsch



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I wouldn't mind going to Korea, but my girlfriend doesn't want to. How about other countries?
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