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Teacher who is 62 years old?

 
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sumaarmont



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Teacher who is 62 years old? Reply with quote

Hi there,

I'm asking this question on behalf of my retired dad who is interested in going to China to teach English. He's 62 years old and has a few university degrees and lots of English teaching experience. I'm wondering if his age would be a problem in applying to jobs? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Many thanks! Smile
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of people in their sixties working as foreign teachers in China. While many schools won't employ him, many others will snap up someone with qualifications and experience, provided he's fit and healthy.
I'd recommend looking at public university positions.
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tw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of students is he interested in teaching? If he wants to teach college and university students, he might be able to get a job. Then again, many employers do specify they will not consider job applicants who are xx years or older -- unless of course, he has a rather youthful face according to the Chinese, who are very poor at judging Westerners' ages. If he wants to teach at a language training centre, he'd most likely have to teach little children and they can really drain his energy. Also, how is his physical health? China can cause a lot of problems on older people with its pollution.
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China.Pete



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Public or Private Reply with quote

Some regions have a 60-year cut off for teachers at public universities. So, your better bet in such situations might be at PRIVATE universities, which tend to have their own rules. In other cases, even where the schools specify a cut-off of 50 or some such, they may be willing to accept someone who's older if you aproach them - especially if they've got unfilled positions for the next term.

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cj750s



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

encourage him to apply at any school that interest him and let the employer tell him age requirements..even though the regualtions may specify n age ..it is likely some areas will not comply with the English verson of the regs.. if they are even up to date or correct..is anyones guess..most advice given here as to the regulations are based on English websites..tell him to find out for himself ..as this will be his only true indications..
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a typical job profile. I'd suggest he not get put off by the age profile, and apply!. Schools would often prefer a mature, experienced professional to some of the youthful dross on offer.

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Recruitment
Vacancy: 4
Teachers or Experts: Both
Age: 35-50,Unspecific
Gender: Male,Female,Couple
Nationality: Austrilia,Canada,New Zealand,U.S.A,U.K,Other
Language: English,Japanese
Education: Bachelor's Degree,Master's Degree,PHD. Degree
Major: Accounting,Art,Economics,Education,Finance,Language & Literature
Working Experience: One year
Workload: 16-18 class hours per week
Monthly Pay: 4000-5000RMB,5000-6000RMB
Available Date Expected: 2007-9-1
Time of Contract: Half year,One year
Courses: Spoken English,Conversation,Reading,Writing,American and British literature,Others
Airfare: Round trip
Travel Allowance(RMB) 2200RMB,1100RMB
Monthly Tel Allowance (RMB): None
Meals: Cooling utensils provided
Boarding Place: On Campus
Boarding: Apartment
Apartment Conditions Bathroom/Toilet,Bathtub/Shower,Washing
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HunanForeignGuy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Teacher who is 62 years old? Reply with quote

sumaarmont wrote:
Hi there,

I'm asking this question on behalf of my retired dad who is interested in going to China to teach English. He's 62 years old and has a few university degrees and lots of English teaching experience. I'm wondering if his age would be a problem in applying to jobs? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Many thanks! Smile


Dear Original Poster,

You did not mention which passport your father holds? Is he British? Canadian? American? etc., etc.

Also some attention needs to be given to ethnic origins...

All of that being said, if your father would be willing to come teach in China starting this September, I know of a really nice university in Guangzhou that prefers old teachers and that is still looking for at least 2 teachers.

If your father is interested for this autumn, please send me a PM with a few more particulars...I surely would be willing to help.

HFG
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Anda



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Post your dad's rusume here on Dave's ESL. I've heard that it works quite good.


http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/wanted/#PostMessage

The cut out age in Jiangsu for goverment positions is 60. I intend to find a place like HunanForeignGuy mentions before I hit 60. There are plenty here but over 60 I know!
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Varies Reply with quote

It definitely varies. Even though the age limit is usually about 60, there is a 60+ year old guy at my school now. Last year we had a guy who was seventy-one! In his case, he'd worked on and off in China for eight years, so I suppose the school felt it would be okay to hire him because he'd know his way around. He e-mailed me that he recently applied to a few schools for this coming year, and got one job offer, and was turned down by one because of his age.

If your dad is in good health, especially with no heart problems (because they'll give you an EKG before you start working), he might as well apply and see what happens.
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brsmith, georginachina, johhnysmoggins.............all posters into their sixties and doing it well. Don't worry about nice places that employ old teachers. Your dad isn't old, as you both know. GWB is 61, and he cuts a dashing figure. Keith and Mick are pushing 64, and still touring. There are plenty of decent teaching posts requiring decent teachers in China.
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sumaarmont



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone who has responded. Sounds like my dad should definitely give it a go! He is a British citizen (for the poster who asked) and in quite good health. He's not planning on going to China until January. Thanks again for all your advice, very much appreciated Smile
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brsmith15



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's a youngster compared to some of us. Let's all give him a round of applause for his courage to try something new........ I know many oldsters who are just sitting around "waiting for God," to steal the title of a great BBC program.
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