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GF



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's interesting because Poles are some of the most anti-semitic people in the world and they have no love for Russians either.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polish people prior to WW2 had let Jews live in peace in Poland. There is to this day a strong Jewish presence in some parts of the city. The Germans were responsible for Auchwitz alot of Americans and non Europeans mistake the Poles as being responsible.

There are many Anti Russian sentiments in many of the new EU member states.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's also a lot of GOOD feeling towards Russia and especially Russian people in many of the new EU member states.

I'm not trying to say there is any 100% consensus, but I know personally quite a lot of Czech who would prefer to be more closely allied with Russia than with the US - not that they want to be suborned or legally joined to either.

Politics are politics, but many Czech I know feel more good will and empathy with Russian people than with westerners.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes Czechs are quite different to some of the other baltic states ie Poland Latvia Lithuania. Nearly everyone I ve met from these countries berates Russia for occupation (and to a lesser extent the west for handing them over - may come as a surprise)

Czechs tend to avoid conflict from my experience. They generally are pretty happy to stay in their country rather than immigrate. I never heard a Czech person berate any nationality except Germans but then they have alot of history with the sudetenland. But at the same time they have alot of German influence.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, I know Czechs best, having been based here for the past ten years. You may be right - it's possible they're not typical of all of the 'new' EU member states.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You need to read your history a bit more carefully. Poles were and are anti-semitic. They continued persecuting the Jews AFTER the war and 2 or 3 days ago a Polish priest made an anti-semitic statement that got international attention.

The Czechs got back at the Germans after the war when they expelled the Germans from the Sudetenland and confiscated all their property.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You need to read your history a bit more carefully
. What did I say that was incorrect. Orginally Jews saw Poland as being a good omen and there was a large community there. The Jews of Poland King Boleslav of Poland invited the Jews, granting them unprecedented rights and privileges. Unique for that time in Europe.

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They continued persecuting the Jews AFTER the war and 2 or 3 days ago a Polish priest made an anti-semitic statement that got international attention.


That does not make an entire country anti semitic or racist
You obviously have something against Poland. I find them to be rather open people and thats based on the majority of Poles I ve met in Dublin and Poland.


Poland was orginally a haven for Jews to escape persecution centuries ago. Poland used to have the largest Jewish community that was reduced by 90% after the holocaust.

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They continued persecuting the Jews AFTER the war

So did Russia and didn t Poland fall under soviet control from 1945-1989?

I m afraid one priests opinion or a few dumb peoples does not account for the whole counrties TODAY. There are idiots in every country

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The Czechs got back at the Germans after the war when they expelled the Germans from the Sudetenland and confiscated all their property.

I know I never said they didn t (I said they had a lot of history) but it was a reason for bitterness between them yet they still let Germans live there and speak their language.

Back to the topic I would recommend Poland to anyone inlcuding the OP..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have nothing against Poles. The few that I have met are good people. However, I grew up in a heavily Jewish area and my ex-wife and her family are Jewish. I heard a lot of stories from them and others (a lot of Holocaust survivors were in our area). My Russian wife and her family had some unpleasant experiences with Poles when they travelled there, though I can understand why considering recent history.