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The opportunity cost of TEFL
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sidjameson



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: The opportunity cost of TEFL Reply with quote

8 years ago I showed my students a newspaper estate agency add. A house in England cost 8 million yen. Today, that same house would cost 36 million yen.

Most teachers in Japan would have been better of buying the house in England and washing dishes for 8 years. At least financially.

There must be guys in Japan who can no longer afford to go back home.

Now the UK housing market and the Japanese yen are obvious extremes in what can happen, but then again they did happen. I suggest that all would be TEFLers be aware of what they may be sacrificing when they decide to teach English abroad.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, if you can stand the sacrifice of washing dishes for eight years and missing out on eight years of life experience then the teacher made the wrong choice. It depends what you value more.

Which one would you prefer to chat to in a bar?
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we can choose currency fluctuations from many different countries - and yours is quite valid.

However, the 50,000 GBP villa, with a 100-meter walk to the beach, down the street from my house on Phuket (five years ago) is now selling for close to 280,000 GBP.

Perhaps they should have put their yen in baht - and worked for peanuts here? Truly, I don't know!

Currency fluctuations are an issue for those of us who live overseas. A big part of my income is in US$ and I live in Thailand where the baht is VERY strong at the moment. I buy my health insurance in GBP and see it going up every day.

And . . . ultimately I have to agree with furious - it is all about enjoying your life and experiencing it, isn't it?

On my death bed, I want to know I maximized my life's experiences. I think I will recall my years of seeing the world, rather than the value of the home I am dying in . . .
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denise



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
Sure, if you can stand the sacrifice of washing dishes for eight years and missing out on eight years of life experience then the teacher made the wrong choice. It depends what you value more.

Which one would you prefer to chat to in a bar?


Well said. I wouldn't trade the experiences I've had in this field. I know that when I return to the US I can have a "normal" life here, at least normal as possible on an EFL teacher's salary in the states, but I certainly didn't feel the need to rush into normalcy (meaning stability, material possessions, buying a house, etc.) when I was fresh out of college. I'm glad I've had several years to see the world, do a job that I love, etc.

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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the TEFL teacher was washing dishes he wouldn't have been able to afford the mortgage payments on the GBP50,000 house.

The truth is it's a generational thing. At present the median house requires around six years median income. Where most jobs are the proportion is even higher. Those who bought houses before the latest boom are home laughing; the rest are high and dry.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that many of it are in for the money, though there are a few, many times they go to Korea to save up. As for me, I wouldn't give up the past five years I've spent teaching. Got married to a wonderful man and we'll be buying a house next year, something that's nearly impossible to do in the USA. My parents still have 15 years left on their mortage and we plan on paying cash.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything has an opportunity cost- if you decide to do something, you're obviously deciding not to do some other things.

Why do people moan more about opportunity lost in this field?

I have no idea.

Maybe because it's perceived as not being lucrative?

Friends back "home" don't look like they're laughing, either, though.

How often have you all heard "I wish I could travel, but I don't have the money?"

Sounds like a different kind of opportunity lost...

Best,
Justin
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denise



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:


How often have you all heard "I wish I could travel, but I don't have the money?"



Or, "... but I don't have the time." If they're busting their butts working in whatever fields people work in back home these days, chances are they'll have the money but no vacation time. And their money gets funneled into houses, new cars, TVs, etc. It's all about priorities.

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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping up with the Jones'...not my cup of tea really. Of course, there are the Garcias, the Lopezes, the Fernandezes...
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MikeySaid



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what it really comes down to is what your definition of success is. I guess what frustrates me most is knowing that ultimately I want to work for myself--and not just giving private language lessons--and that to generate that capital for myself may be rather difficult. Any angel investors out there?
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naturegirl321



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