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[Just a guy]

Just to see what comes of it, I put a short cv on two smaller sites & just received this email at my new address.

I'll post this copied email in the post below.

First off, she obviously sent this to a number of applicants, my name isn�t Tom & I�m already in China (said so in my cv) & it�s surly a recruiter��

What are some of the �red flag� points you more experienced China FT�s can see in the descriptions given that new job seekers should look for ?

Any other tips on reading between lines would be a lot of help too.

[Just a guy]

Hi Tom,

I'm May.There are three position available on Feb,2004.

First,teaching in Xinjiang Guanghua,located in Wulumuqi,the capital of Xinjiang.You teach 25 teaching periods,the salary is 4500-7000RMB/month,depending on your education background and teaching experience.The school is a private language school,the students there are primary and middle school level.About 28-35 students are in one class,age from 5-18.The school offers private apartment,medical insurance and roundway tickets.The school also provides free meals for you.You can get a general idea of the school by having a look at the website,www.xjgh.com

Second is teaching English in Nanchang Institute of Aeronautical Technology,which located in Nanchang,Jixi province. The salary is 4000-6000RMB/month,you teach 20teaching periods per week.The school will pay 100 RMB for every one additional period.The school will provide private apartment,and roundway tickets,medical insurance.

Third,a job in Daqing.This is offered by Daqing Foreign Expert Office.The salary is 5000 per month,with 500 monthly subsidy,and 2200 travelling subsidy per year.The accommodation is free,two bedroom,one sitting room,one kitchen and washroom with all necessary facilities,including a computer.And you work 5 days a week,20 hours per week.

Also,if you could come to China asap,there are 4 position available now.

That is teaching in a Language school in Panjin,Liaoning province.You teach 30 teaching periods a week,the salary is 6000RMB/month.The school offers private apartment,roundway tickets and medical insurance.The students are ranging age 8-16 years old.About 30 students in one class.The school pays you 100RMB for everyone addtional teaching period.

Second,teaching in Shandong Light Industry Inst.,which is located in Jinan,the capital of shandong province.The salary is 4000RMB/month,but only teach 16 teaching periods a week.The students there are university level,their average age is 21.

Third,teaching in a private language school in Wuxi,jiangsu province.The salary is 4500RMB/month,teaching 16 teaching periods a week.You teach primary and middle school students.

Last,teaching in a language training center in Puyang,Henan province.The salary is 5000RMB/month,you teach 18 teaching periods a week.The school pays you 80RMB for every addtional teaching periods.You teach adults there.The schools of all these positions offer private apartment,medical insurance and roundway tickets.

Which one are you interested in,and when are you going to come to China?Please contact me asap.

Kindest Regards

May

[Roger]

If you post your CV on ANY website, you will automatically get "job offers" through agents, most of whom are freelancers with a decent job at a school.
They just happen to know where posts are advertised for, and where CV's get published. Simple - scan the two, and act decisively. They know because they are English teachers working in the FAO of some public institution. Sometimes they are principals or headmasters.
I got a confirmation of my suspicions from someone at chinatefl. They fully know that illegit recruiters are acting as go-betweens. They are willing to take action against them, but I wonder how they can do anything at all. Unless, of course, they make Chinese schools pay for accessing the lists of CV's as Dave's board does!
This weeds out most unscrupulous opportunists!

[Just a guy]

So Rog,
BTW, thanks for All the info you freely give us
Your saying this lady, May have just scanned the job openings boards & wrote up a quick description of jobs she found that she will be able to get the commission from & then�.

Went to the CV boards & sent said list of jobs to new postings?

If so, how would one best find out if she in fact represents the schools she has on her list?

I�ve a couple replies from what look like true Recruiters, either sending their web sites link or just asking when I�m available & to send them an email for info, or from actual school FAO�s.

Back to my original Q;
All the jobs listed look OK at first glance,
how does a person new to looking, know what ones should be avoided?

[Roger]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid such agents because the websites are accessible to all and sundry.
If a school advertises, they will normally use their own FAO to recruit you, so that FAO will reply to your application with no reference to other jobs available.
But illegitimate agents will give you a number of schools to choose from, hoping you go for one of them. Some of these agents are a bit green too - giving away the school's particulars without safeguarding their own interest in the matter. They can't hope to get a cut from the deal!

[Just a guy]

Here are couple funny things I�m seeing in my box.
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for about 16-24 teaching hours each week plus 50RMB for each extra teaching hour( for teachers from English speaking countries , for those who are from other countries, the offer may be subjected to discussion case by case)

Please touch us by: phone # & addy

�.. United Foreign Language Institute.We need foreign teachers badly at the next term beginning at Feb.2004.The students range from primary to high schools ,as well as some kinds of english training courses, and they age from 7 to 18 years old

��. and you will receive free individual housing (approved by the Chinese Government as being suitable for Foreign Experts) along with a host of other benefits.
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Funny how so many of them say it is very Important to Send in your application ASAP.

I'm glad I created a new name & email account......
these folks are Hungry !